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to: Don Hills
from: Rich
date: 2005-12-26 20:39:14
subject: Re: Digital media servers, renderers, and control points.

From: "Rich" 

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   Typical of folks that fear looking foolish you edit away the earlier =
message that demonstrates how foolish you are.   Let's remind everyone =
of how hard you work to avoid staying on topic


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:43b01a75$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Gee, that's nice.  Care to respond on topic or are you trying a =
diversion because you can't?

    Rich

      "Don Hills"  wrote in message =
news:LO9rDtgaXewd092yn{at}attglobal.net...
      In article , "Rich"  wrote:
      >   You make this claim by simple assertion.  You do appear to =
have
      >stepped away from mike millers nonsense of using something =
available for
      >both Windows and the mac to make the assertion that one is ahead =
of the
      >other.  That's a good start.

      Given a choice between something that looks good, works =
intuitively and
      performs adequately, or something that is subtly lacking in design =
flair and
      ease of use even though it is technically superior on paper, it =
was an easy
      decision. I shouldn't have been surprised, I recall making the =
same decision
      on my last PDA purchase - a choice between a Palm OS PDA or a =
Windows CE
      PDA. Come to think of it, my most recent appliance purchase was =
decided the
      same way - I bought a Playstation 2 (new slim version) instead of =
an Xbox.

      --=20
      Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New =
Zealand

Now, why don't you explain how you personal choice of a PDA and game =
console supports your earlier assertion.  Since you edited that out of =
the reply above, probably to help you hide that your reponse was =
completely off topic, let's remind everyone of that.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:43af6503$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       You make this claim by simple assertion.  You do appear to have =
stepped away from mike millers nonsense of using something available for =
both Windows and the mac to make the assertion that one is ahead of the =
other.  That's a good start.

       Now all you need to do is support your claim in some way.  How =
many products in this space have you tried?  Can you list the pluses and =
minuses of each that support your claim?

    Rich


      "Don Hills"  wrote in message =
news:chgrDtgaXutb092yn{at}attglobal.net...
      In article , "Rich"  wrote:
      >   I don't know why you are changing the topic to DRM.  Maybe =
apple's
      >proprietary protocol includes or mandates DRM.  The UPnP media =
server
      >and rendered protocols I mentioned earlier do not.

      Leaving DRM out of the equation doesn't change my decision. I'm in =
the
      market now, and Apple's offerings have the best "fit and finish" =
of what is
      available here now.

      --=20
      Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New =
Zealand

Now, maybe you want to stop trolling and support your simple assertion =
compating apple and the other participants in this market.  Please don't =
tell us about your choices of PDAs, watches, or automobile tires.  They =
have no relevant and would just be a further diversion on your part.

Rich

  "Don Hills"  wrote in message =
news:ixLsDtgaXyDP092yn{at}attglobal.net...
  In article , "Rich"  wrote:
  >   Gee, that's nice.  Care to respond on topic or are you trying a =
=3D
  >diversion because you can't?

  It was your diversion. I should know batter than to argue with a =
troll.

  --=20
  Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New Zealand

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"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43b01a75$1{at}w3.nls.net... Gee, that's = nice. Care to=20 respond on topic or are you trying a diversion because you=20 can't? Rich "Don Hills" <black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.commailto:black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com">black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:LO9rDtgaXewd092yn{at}attg= lobal.net...In=20 article <43af6503$1{at}w3.nls.net>,">mailto:43af6503$1{at}w3.nls.net">43af6503$1{at}w3.nls.net>, = "Rich"=20 <{at}> wrote:> You make this claim by simple = assertion. You do appear to have>stepped away from = mike=20 millers nonsense of using something available for>both = Windows and=20 the mac to make the assertion that one is ahead of = the>other. =20 That's a good start.Given a choice between something that = looks=20 good, works intuitively andperforms adequately, or something = that is=20 subtly lacking in design flair andease of use even though it = is=20 technically superior on paper, it was an easydecision. I = shouldn't=20 have been surprised, I recall making the same decisionon my = last PDA=20 purchase - a choice between a Palm OS PDA or a Windows CEPDA. = Come to=20 think of it, my most recent appliance purchase was decided = thesame way=20 - I bought a Playstation 2 (new slim version) instead of an=20 Xbox.-- Don Hills (dmhills at=20 attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New=20 Zealand Now, why don't you explain how you = personal choice=20 of a PDA and game console supports your earlier assertion. Since = you=20 edited that out of the reply above, probably to help you hide that your = reponse=20 was completely off topic, let's remind everyone of that.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message = news:43af6503$1{at}w3.nls.net... You = make this claim=20 by simple assertion. You do appear to have stepped away from = mike=20 millers nonsense of using something available for both Windows and = the mac=20 to make the assertion that one is ahead of the other. That's a = good=20 start. Now = all you need to=20 do is support your claim in some way. How many products in = this space=20 have you tried? Can you list the pluses and minuses of = each that=20 support your claim? Rich "Don Hills" <mailto:black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com"> color=3D#008000>black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com> wrote in message news:chgrDtgaXutb092yn{at}attglobal.net...In article = <mailto:43ad8c4a$1{at}w3.nls.net"> color=3D#008000>43ad8c4a$1{at}w3.nls.net>,=20 "Rich" <{at}> wrote:> I don't know why you = are=20 changing the topic to DRM. Maybe apple's>proprietary = protocol=20 includes or mandates DRM. The UPnP media server>and = rendered=20 protocols I mentioned earlier do not.Leaving DRM out of = the=20 equation doesn't change my decision. I'm in themarket now, and = Apple's=20 offerings have the best "fit and finish" of what isavailable = here=20 now.-- Don Hills (dmhills at=20 attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New=20 Zealand Now, maybe you want to stop trolling = and support=20 your simple assertion compating apple and the other participants in this = market. Please don't tell us about your choices of PDAs, watches, = or=20 automobile tires. They have no relevant and would just be a=20 further diversion on your part. Rich "Don Hills" <black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.commailto:black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com">black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com A>>=20 wrote in message news:ixLsDtgaXyDP092yn{at}attg= lobal.net...In=20 article <43b01a75$1{at}w3.nls.net>,">mailto:43b01a75$1{at}w3.nls.net">43b01a75$1{at}w3.nls.net>, = "Rich"=20 <{at}> wrote:> Gee, that's nice. Care to = respond=20 on topic or are you trying a =3D>diversion because you = can't?It=20 was your diversion. I should know batter than to argue with a = troll.--=20 Don Hills (dmhills at=20 attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New=20 Zealand ------=_NextPart_000_030A_01C60A5C.6F869DC0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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