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echo: aust_avtech
to: John Tserkezis
from: Rod Speed
date: 1997-02-24 10:25:40
subject: Shitboxen schtuffenbugger

JT> If you lose either the front or back half of your
JT> braking system, you still have _some_ braking, but
JT> maybe you don't know how much this "some" actually is.

PE> Half.

JT> Assuming no additional loss, and also assuming the brake
JT> balance is set up for 70% front 30% back, and assuming
JT> your front brakes are the ones that will go-  You have
JT> 30% brake left, at best. Fair bit less than half.

But still perfectly adequate for stopping the car the way he drives.

No point in going into hysterics and never driving the car.

Particularly when the mechanic clearly didnt think that the
brake hoses warranted a defect notice and just warranted a
conservative approach of changing them before the next rego
to eliminate the small possibility of them going bang.

JT> This "some" is actually a lot closer
JT> to "fuck all" rather than "just made it".

Oh crap.

PE> Two "fuck all"'s make a whole do they?

JT> When you lose one, you also are pumping
JT> fluid out of that leak for a short while.

And still have the other half of the braking system working.
Thats the whole point of having a split braking system.

If it didnt have a significant value, they wouldnt bother
with the significant increased cost of doing it that way.

JT> How much do YOU trust your "non dual redundant" brake
JT> system now? Still do? Read up on it, and find out how this
JT> "dual braking system" works, and then ask which areas fail
JT> according to common failures, and what happens when it does.

PE> I did read up on it, and the manual told me that it was designed
PE> so that if one part of the system failed, the thing would still
PE> work. In this case, the question is on the front brake hoses.

JT> Stiff shit.  The book for my car says exactly the same thing.

So your claim is bullshit. Its very reasonable
to be continuing to drive his car.

JT> Either way, even IF you still have half brakes available,
JT> how will you know if it goes at the most inopportune moment?

The brakes dont work. Pity that you are hyperventilating about a
VERY unlikely risk, when NONE of the brakes has actually failed.

JT> Rather incovenient time to fail I bet.

Sure, there is a remote possibility of total brake failure. That normally
results in a dented car. There is a much HIGHER risk of driver failure, and
YOU take that risk every day you go out in your car John. No point in going
into hysterics about the very small risks.
@EOT:

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