From: "Rich" 

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   You are missing point.  Whether or purpose or not I can't tell.  That =
some people want something, anything, for free is not the topic under =
descussion nor should it be a surprise to anyone.

Rich


  "Don Hills"  wrote in message =
news:kNgrDtgaXKST092yn{at}attglobal.net...
  In article , "Rich"  wrote:
  >   No.  I don't want examples of people pirating TV shows.  I asked =
you
  >for the top five examples of your earlier claim, living room devices
  >that succeeded because geeks adopted them and everyone else followed
  >asking geeks for how to do it.
  >
  >>  "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43aa8da1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>  You want examples of people going the route I've gone? Get on =
emule
  >>and search on any of the current high def TV shows, those are not =
tivo
  >>or viiv or media center users.

  You may not want "pirating TV shows" as an example, but it is a very
  compelling one for non-geeks. They see the results at their geek =
friend's
  house and want to get them too. Pretty soon there are products to make =
it
  easy and intuitive. This is driving the current adoption of home media
  systems in the same way as porn drove the adoption of the VCR.

  Around these parts, we're at the stage where the geeks find and =
download the
  shows then burn them to DVD for their own use and for swapping with =
friends.
  There's a demand here because the local TV channels don't buy the =
shows
  because they don't think they'll rate. Sales of legally released TV =
shows on
  DVD sets are also brisk, proving that people would be prepared to pay =
for
  them if they were legally available.

  Gee, spend money trying to stem the demand or make money satisfying =
it...
  you'd think the media companies would show more common sense.

  --=20
  Don Hills    (dmhills at attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New Zealand

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   You are missing =
point.  Whether=20
or purpose or not I can't tell.  That some people want =
something,=20
anything, for free is not the topic under descussion nor should it be a = surprise=20
to anyone.
 
Rich
 
 

  "Don Hills" <black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.commailto:black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com">black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com
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  wrote in message news:kNgrDtgaXKST092yn{at}attg=
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  article <43aade2c{at}w3.nls.net>,=20">mailto:43aade2c{at}w3.nls.net">43aade2c{at}w3.nls.net>,=20
  "Rich" <{at}>
wrote:>   No.  I don't want =
examples of=20
  people pirating TV shows.  I asked you>for the top five =
examples=20
  of your earlier claim, living room devices>that succeeded =
because geeks=20
  adopted them and everyone else followed>asking geeks for how to =
do=20
  it.>>>  "Geo"
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:43aa8da1$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>> =20
  You want examples of people going the route I've gone? Get on=20
  emule>>and search on any of the current high def
TV shows, =
those are=20
  not tivo>>or viiv or media center
users.You may not =
want=20
  "pirating TV shows" as an example, but it is a
verycompelling one =
for=20
  non-geeks. They see the results at their geek friend'shouse and =
want to=20
  get them too. Pretty soon there are products to make iteasy and =
intuitive.=20
  This is driving the current adoption of home mediasystems in the =
same way=20
  as porn drove the adoption of the VCR.Around these parts, =
we're at the=20
  stage where the geeks find and download theshows then burn them to =
DVD for=20
  their own use and for swapping with friends.There's a demand here =
because=20
  the local TV channels don't buy the showsbecause they don't think =
they'll=20
  rate. Sales of legally released TV shows onDVD sets are also =
brisk,=20
  proving that people would be prepared to pay forthem if they were =
legally=20
  available.Gee, spend money trying to stem the demand or make =
money=20
  satisfying it...you'd think the media companies would show more =
common=20
  sense.-- Don
Hills    (dmhills at=20
  attglobaldotnet)     Wellington, New=20
Zealand

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