ù Quoting Rich Willbanks from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
RW> shelters then.  There was no unemployment insurance, no job no money. 
RW>  There wasn't any welfare, no job no home.  There wasn't any 
RW> medicare/medicaid, no money no medicine.
You answered your own question. Crime, stratification, real wage, all of 
these 
things have gotten steadily worse and worse since the 20's. That's what makes 
it worse.
RW> You better reread your history; there weren't jobs and unions 
RW> couldn't hold together because if they went out on strike.  If they 
RW> did there would be 5 men willing to take the place for each union 
RW> worker.
No, you definitely need to re-read YOUR history. Unions have a long, strong 
history in this country, especially in the late 19th-century and early 
20th-century. In many cities, the union newspaper was read just as much as 
the 
mainstream/corporate newspaper. And now, in any given city, the one 
mainstream 
newspaper is probably the only one that exists. There might be 5 men willing 
to
be scabs, but there were many more men waiting to kick the scab's ass.
RW> Neither of the ones on my book shelf shows poverty CAUSES crime.  If 
RW> it did the crime rate in the poor rural areas would be just as high 
RW> as the poor urban areas.
Right, whatever, now as I said, any book you pick up will show a link between 
poverty and crime. 
RW> Really?  You mean that it is common practices to address a black man 
RW> as "boy" on your street?  And when a white man gets on a full bus a 
RW> black stands up to givehim a seat?  When was the last time they found 
RW> a black man hanging from a tree there with a sign around his neck 
You seem to think that because you don't see it on the street it doesn't 
exist.
YOUR attitude is the reason why covert/subtle racism is worse than the overt 
racism of the 60s, and the reason why many blacks are saying that racism is 
worse. Because in the 60s, Ma and Pa Middleclass (YOU) would turn on their 
TV's
and could see for themselves the cops beating the blacks. The overt racism 
was 
very bad, but today, the racism has become institutional, subtle, systemic. 
And
then people like YOU deny it even exists and are completely unmotivated to do 
something about it. So you see? Your attitude proves what I'm talking about.
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