ù Quoting Rich Willbanks from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
RW> I could go on but that's enough to let you know that the union TODAY 
RW> is nothing more then a bunch of people who want to make a little (or 
First of all, you can't say "the union today" as there are a number of 
different kinds of unions. I will agree that the one of the huge unions, like 
the Teamsters, is totally corrupt at the higher levels and is just a business 
in and of itself. Most unions today are in bed with the company, and this is 
not an accident. It is the result of years and years of corporate attacks on 
working class organization. However, there are unions like the IWW who focus 
on
decentralized direct action to get the job done, with very little union dues. 
RW> Only for those who are looking in the wrong places. You're not going 
RW> to get rich if you plan to work in a factory for 20 years and retire 
RW> with SS and a union pension plan.
Okay, but SOMEONE has to work those jobs. See what I mean? Someone will 
always 
have to be the janitor, or the McDonald's worker, or whatever - and another 
thing, there will ALWAYS be someone who will be working that job, because 
there
will always be a lower class. So it doesn't really matter that you think 
saving
your money is the answer, because the society YOU support creates poverty.
RW> When a company can pay a good (for them) wage in a foreign country, 
RW> pay for transporting the goods and still sell it cheeper and make a 
RW> profit than if they produce it in the US you have to know that the 
This is nothing but western arrogance. If the Nike sweatshops in Vietnam are 
filled with employees, it is not because they are getting a good wage, it is 
because they finally have the chance to have SOME wage. Of course, in the 
long-term, Nike's involvement will only encourage government corruption, 
inflation, class stratification, and eventual depression when they move their 
factory to the next depressed Third World country. Perhaps you hadn't 
noticed, 
but most Third World countries HATE the United States, burning our flag and 
robbing tourists. It is the U$A and its corporations that have supported 
Third 
World dictatorships, Third World death squads, insurrections of 
popularly-elected governments, etc. 
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