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JE> George Patton wrote:
JE> When I said the phrase 'anti semitism' did not exist, I also imply that
JE> the concept that it represents did not exist. The whole thought process
JE> is modern.
If by "modern" you mean since the Roman Catholic Church became
such a global
influence/power, then I might agree with you. . . :|
JE> present day anti semitism did not exist. And may be those meanings will
JE> dilute gradually to virtual non existence in future. That can happen if
JE> the Jewish hold on the Hollywood and other communications reduces. After
Oh, here we go again. . .
This game was already played by Hitler in the 1930's, except he blamed it on
the Jews in banking!
Of course, no mention was made of how the Jews were FORCED to run the banking
industry in Germany for the Christians in the middle ages!
Because it was seen as a distasteful business for holy righteous people to
participate in (particularly the collecting of interest from one's fellow
citizens), so they forced the hell-destined Jews to do it, because, contrary to
your claim, there very much was a societal undercurrent of hatred towards Jews
(nb. this was LOOONG before Hollyweird was ever even imagined!)
And, no it wasn't because the took over the banking (as I said, that wasn't
what happened -- they were compelled to take over the banking!)
Perhaps "anti-Jew" isn't quite the correct phrase, how about
"anti-Christ"!
Being that Jesus had taught that all would betray him, even Peter(the
"rock",
upon whom the "Church" was to be built), it would make sense
that the Church
should so greatly exhibit hatred of Jesus and the loving ideals he taught, in
that anti-Semitism includes the core belief that no Jew has any real place in
God's Kingdom (pop quiz: what was Jesus? Was he a Jew by religion? Was he a
Semite by race?)
For whom did Jesus come?
Was it not FIRST for the Jews? (the "lost sheep")
What is the correct way to treat those who refuse to repent?
Jesus taught that they should be treated as if they were a heathen (and how are
the heathen(unbelieving) people supposed to be treated? With a loving
invitation to experience forgiveness & freedom!
JE> all, Christians were discriminated, poorly treated, and even persecuted
JE> and annihilated. But no phrases were coined to represent that. It is the
The only Christians who ever suffered systematic persecution were the early
JEWISH ones, who were severely persecuted & tortured by Rome!
The Christians were annihilated?
Then explain why there is over a billion Christians in the world today (albeit
most are nominally such, but still. . . )
Don't throw away historical facts -- the Christian Church, as a significant
religion, has always & only been the persecuTOR of Jews and Moslems!
Perhaps if the Christian church would take a better look at its theology &
doctrines, they might make more headway on the learning tasks that God has set!
Rather than seeing the Jewish reluctance to crown Jesus as Messiah as being a
reason to kill them, why not QUESTION why they don't accept Jesus as Messiah!
Take note of some key prophecies that MUST be completely fulfilled by one man
BEFORE he can be identified as the long-awaited Messiah:
* To bring about eternal Peace between the nations
Isaiah 2:4;Micah4:3; Zechariah 9:9-10;Ezekiel 39:9;Isaiah 11:6
* To bring about an end to idolatry
Zechariah 13:2; Isaiah 2:18; Zephaniah 2:11
* To make the world recognize that Gd is, indeed, God
Isaiah 11:9;40:5; Isaiah 52:1;66:23; Jeremiah 3:17;31:34
* to re-establish the dynasty of King David, from whom the Messiah will be
able to trace his own lineage through his own biological father
Isaiah 11:1
* To cause the Ingathering of the 12 tribes
Isaiah 27:12ff; 11:12; Ezekiel 37:1ff
* To rebuild the Temple
Micah 4:1
* To remove famine from the earth
Ezekiel 37:1ff
* To make the world (or at least the carnivorous animals) into
vegetarians
Isaiah 11:7
Now, the Christian preachers claim that Jesus IS the Messiah, but that he has
to come back to complete these tasks. . .
That's cheaping out!
My God isn't so limited as to cut ANY corners in the deeds He has promised to
fulfill!
Likewise my God and my Bible don't say word one about a two-stage fulfilment!
ONE God!
ONE Word!
ONE Messiah!
Your friend,
<+]::-{(} ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
(MSN chat available)
(Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
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In non-essentials, liberty;
in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
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