> GD> Don't like it, don't live here. Simple

MM> Yes, that's exactly what should have been said to our Founding Fathers when
  >they decided they didn't like what the British Crown was doing.

Well actually the FF's told the Crown to "Eff Off", we don't like your
crap and we're leaving.

  > GD> Illegal Immigration costs the American Taxpayer more then 250 Billion,
  > GD> the wall is about 5 Billion. There is no longer a debate.

MM> Hey, look, a number pulled directly from the Fake News Media.

CNN published that?

MM> Fun fact: It doesn't cost that much. The most accurate calculation was that
  >illegal immigrants cost around 45 billion a year.

Okay.... so tell me how spending 5B doesn't make *PERFECT* *SENSE*, to
stop the flow of illegal immigrants.  We save 40B.  Duh.

MM>Here's the thing about a wall: It didn't even work very well for the Chinese
  >and that was before flying was a thing.  We can spend $5 billion on a wall.
  >boats are cheap. rafts are free. airfare is inexpensive. ladders are also
  >cheap. so are shovels.

The wall would be combined with other measures too.  Electronic and
human surveillance for starters.  Another thing that is cheap is AMMO.

  > GD> Being gay or straight is a choice and does not have a thing to do with
  > GD> religion, to state otherwise is more then foolish.

MM>Tell me, did you wake up one morning and decide to be straight? no? You
  >just happen to find the opposite sex appealing?
  >It's the same for those who are LBGT. They don't chose to be the way they
  >are.

That might be true for all but the "T" bunch.  Pretty obviously a
"choice" to go forward with that path.

MM>  Graduates from RPI average $82,000 a year after 10 years of work and start
  >about $67,000 . if they have a student loan of $200,000, they will be paying
  >$2126 a month for 10 years at current interest rates. Not to mention they'll
  >need to take out private loans to pay for that, since federal loans won't co
  >it.

MM>That's $25,512 in loan payments per year. Bringing their pay averages down t
  >$41,488 and $56,488 after 10 years. But they're still getting taxed on the
  >higher income bracket.

MM>I'm not saying it's not worth it.  I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, I am
  >saying there has got to be a better way than to saddle our kids with crushin
  >debt.

I'd have to agree that the costs of tuition seem higher than they should
be.  Not sure what the solution to that is though.


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