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echo: aust_avtech
to: Dianne Lindsay
from: Rod Gasson
date: 1997-03-04 12:48:04
subject: HMMM?

G'day Dianne,



03 Mar 97 10:15, Dianne Lindsay wrote to Rod Gasson:



 >>DL> to do with you, your surname is young, why bother to stick up

 >>DL> for the wog unless you are sticking it up him.

 >>

 >> Geez ....  talk about being a hypocritical racist..  you must

 >> surely take the cake.



 DL> who is the bloody hypocrite...one minute you are telling me these

 DL> words are used freely here and next minute you are telling me they

 DL> are racist well i think i have just proved my point.



You've proved that you have a very short memory span.. I was telling

you that the words themselves are harmless/meaningless... it is HOW

THEY ARE USED that makes them racist.



 >> he can call Denise a 'dyke', and Denise won't mind being called an

 >> dyke as long as she can call an abo an abo. -  Between the

 >> *regulars* here, we know where to



 DL> oh as long as you are a regular this is ok ..now who is the bunch of



Let me refresh your memory once again...   I also said (and you

agreed), that it is fine to go up to a mate and say "How ya going you

old bastard" and there will be no ill will..  yet if you go up to a

stranger and say the very same words you run the risk of offending

them.

The 'regulars' here are friends, we can get away with calling each

other "names" because we know there is little or no chance of them

taking offence.

You are a stranger here..  we don't know you, and if you wish to walk

that fine line without knowing who you are talking to then that is

your problem.



 DL> hypocrites ...... i see when i have used these words everyone jumps

 DL> to their little category ..well i jumped to the category abo.



Try thinking before you jump. It's safer.



 >> So far, you appear to be the biggest racist that this echo has

 >> seen to date.



 DL> and you have just qualified as the biggest hypocrite.

 DL> I used the same thing that was happening to me....ofcourse the only

 DL> people those so called abbreviations ever really hurt is the abo, wog



Call a mate an asshole and you'll get a hug...  call a stranger an

asshole and you'll get your teeth kicked in.

If this is being hypocrital then I'm a hypocrite..  but on that basis

we all are.

From our previous discussion you even agreed with this.



Why have you changed your tune?  You are becoming the female

equivilent of Rod Speed.



 DL> people who use it. If those words are so bloody ACCEPTABLE as

 DL> everyone has claimed then why do you turn like a pack of dogs when i

 DL> use them.



Because as per our previous discussion, it isn't what is said, it is

HOW it is said that is important.



 DL> Apparently they are not so ACCEPTABLE or maybe it is just

 DL> whites can use them or maybe it is just the regulars in Aust Avtec.

 DL> I have just proved my point.



You have merely proved that you have the memory span of a flea.



If you believe that *words* are offensive then there is simply no

hope/help for you.

When you realise that the words are unimportant, it is how they are

used that conveys their meaning then maybe you'll be able to remove

that chip from your shoulder and get on with life...  Heck, who knows,

maybe one day you'll even realise that some people do use the word

'abo' with no ill intent.



Cheers,

Rod



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