SH> I could probably slip into a bath filled with ice water if I had to but
 SH> jumping into an ocean or a lake is a different matter.  I still remember
 SH> vividly when I made that mistake the last time and that was 45 years ago.

I don't see any difference between a tub full of ice and a frozen lake.
Is it freezing it is.

//Bjorn

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