ù Quoting Rd Thompson from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
RB> RT> keep a closer watch on its own steps.
RB> 
RB> However, you indicated that since they hadn't done that (although
RB> damn close)  that there is no problem. Is that what you are saying? 
RT> Let me put to you this way.  Do you think that if the common citizen 
RT> was not armed, that the government would be acting like it does, 
RT> would it act better or would it, perhaps, be much worse?
Sigh, look at the thread above. I am an advocate for gun ownership, but I do 
not think that it is the litmus test of oppression in any given society, a 
line
of argumentation you've ignored, because you can think of no response for our 
situation in the United States.
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