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to: Rich
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-01-15 16:29:18
subject: Re: New Intel Macs

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

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Actually people here are saying that a portion of the customer base = would
be better served without such a restrictive OS license.  You are =
attempting to portray  MS as some sort of innocent bystander in these =
licensing agreements. Yes, MS has a right to mandate these restrictions  =
just as I, as a consumer, have a right to be displeased by them.=20

=20
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:43caa304{at}w3.nls.net...
     If customers assign value to the choices emachine does not make, as =
the folks here claim to, they would be competing better by better = serving
these customers.  It's all emachines choice.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:43c9e273$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Sure they have a choice. They can choose to compete in the commodity =
PC market  by accepting the MS solution or not.  It's a business = decision
that's more a necessity than a 'choice'. =20

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:43c9d6d0{at}w3.nls.net...
         Only if you redefine incentive to mean choice.

      Rich

        "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:43c95883{at}w3.nls.net...
        and MS doesn't offer 'incentives' so that eMachines will make =
that choice? =20

        "Rich"  wrote in message news:43c954da{at}w3.nls.net...
             It sure is important.  You claimed that replacing the =
computer but keeping the case is the keeping the same computer.  You =
really do need to have a firm basis in reality if you want to make a =
point.

             The choice you continue to whine about is one made by =
emachines.  You should be whining to them.  But of course no one expects =
you to.  You will likely continue to whine.

          Rich


            "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43c933e8$4{at}w3.nls.net...
            Not incapable, unimportant to my point that tying Windows =
license to the hardware is proof that Microsoft is just as draconian.

            Geo.
              "Rich"  wrote in message news:43c92b7f{at}w3.nls.net...
                 "motherboard, case, what's the difference",  Are you =
seriously incapable of distinguishing?

                 If you are unhappy with emachines, whine to emachines.

              Rich

                "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43c8849b$4{at}w3.nls.net...
                Motherboard, case, what's the difference, pick which you =
want to call the computer. The point is if I buy software I expect to be =
allowed to run that software on one computer, if my old computer dies I =
expect to be able to replace the hardware and run the same software on =
one computer.=20

                Change that model, force me to buy new software every =
time I buy a new computer, an suddenly it gets a lot easier to move to =
another platform like Mac or Linux.

                Geo.
                  "Rich"  wrote in message =
news:43c7e440{at}w3.nls.net...
                     I doubt it was tied to that individual motherboard =
or even that type of motherboard.

                     BTW, are we all to be pretending that the case is =
the computer and the motherboard an accessory instead of the reality.

                  Rich


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Actually people here are saying that a portion of =
the customer=20
base would be better served without such a restrictive OS =
license. =20
You are attempting to portray  MS as some sort of innocent = bystander in=20
these licensing agreements. Yes, MS has a right to mandate these=20
restrictions  just as I, as a consumer, have a right to be =
displeased by=20
them. 
 
 
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43caa304{at}w3.nls.net... If customers assign = value to the=20 choices emachine does not make, as the folks here claim to, they would = be=20 competing better by better serving these customers. It's all = emachines=20 choice. Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message news:43c9e273$1{at}w3.nls.net... Sure they have a choice. They can choose to = compete in the=20 commodity PC market by accepting the MS solution or=20 not. It's a business decision that's more a necessity = than a=20 'choice'.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43c9d6d0{at}w3.nls.net... Only if you redefine = incentive=20 to mean choice. Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message news:43c95883{at}w3.nls.net... and MS doesn't offer 'incentives' so that = eMachines=20 will make that choice? "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43c954da{at}w3.nls.net...
It sure is = important. =20 You claimed that replacing the computer but keeping the case = is the=20 keeping the same computer. You really do need to have a = firm=20 basis in reality if you want to make a point. The = choice you continue=20 to whine about is one made by emachines. You should = be=20 whining to them. But of course no one expects you = to. You=20 will likely continue to whine. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> = wrote in=20 message news:43c933e8$4{at}w3.nls.net... Not incapable, unimportant = to my point=20 that tying Windows license to the hardware is proof that = Microsoft=20 is just as draconian. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43c92b7f{at}w3.nls.net... = "motherboard, case,=20 what's the difference", Are you seriously incapable = of=20 distinguishing? If you are = unhappy with=20 emachines, whine to emachines. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> = wrote in=20 message news:43c8849b$4{at}w3.nls.net... Motherboard, case, = what's the=20 difference, pick which you want to call the computer. = The point=20 is if I buy software I expect to be allowed to run that = software=20 on one computer, if my old computer dies I expect to be = able to=20 replace the hardware and run the same software on one = computer.=20 Change that model, = force me to buy=20 new software every time I buy a new computer, an = suddenly it=20 gets a lot easier to move to another platform like Mac = or=20 Linux. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43c7e440{at}w3.nls.net... I doubt = it was tied=20 to that individual motherboard or even that type of=20 motherboard. BTW, are = we all to=20 be pretending that the case is the computer and the=20 motherboard an accessory instead of the = reality. Rich <= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C619F0.D4FEED80-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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