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Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 06:51:25 -0800
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From: Carl Cook 
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Hey -- sorry 'bout that!  Guess I misread some of what you wrote, my 
apologies. All I asked for was a simple list, not a rambling lecture.

"Liberation" was your term, one of the antonym's of which is
"imprisonment."

I guess I read into your message something that wasn't there (quoted 
below). Sorry sorry SORRY!

However, for your part, perhaps your should recall one of the skills of 
your former profession...editing. If someone asks a simple question, 
provide a simple answer.

No disrespect was intended --

I remember once you wrote something to the effect that I was, or should sit 
on top of the mountain looking down upon all the great unwashed ( I don't 
remember the exact quote). I was going to answer that I wanted to do that, 
but couldn't get near the top because your fat butt was in the way.

But, I didn't say that because I though it would be received by you as 
disrespectful (the years have shown me that the sense -of-humor level in 
this group is not very high), and I would just be seen as the bad guy. 
I  am probably going to be seen as the bad guy no matter what I say or how 
innocent the intent.

Sometimes I say things that are intended to make people think, or at least 
examine their motives so they can come out better at the other end. I do 
this with myself a lot. Often it works, and I have been thanked for it, but 
then again, there are some who --- well, you fill in the blanks. (oops, 
just did it again) :)

In this case, all I asked for was a list of some of the advantages and 
disadvantages of digital / traditional photography. That'll teach me!

It was fun coming back to this group, but it seems  I am just trouble 
magnet. This is an apology to all,

And now it's back to my wet/digital darkroom (I'm thinking of putting a 
computer in the darkroom with an amber filter over the monitor so I can do 
both at the same time!  :)
--

I close my last fume-room in the mid '80s and my personal work dwindled and
almost ceased. I could never feel that the prints I picked up and stashed in
the shoe boxes were really mine. The results were consistent - consistently
bland. Unless there was a pay-check at the end of the shoot, I rarely picked
up a camera. The little Nikon CP990 and the digital darkroom ended that.


Digital is not about silicon vs silver. Digital returns the whole process to
the shooter, conception, exposure, processing and presentation. That is the
true significance of digital - liberation from the one-hour lab!

--

At 12:00 AM 4/2/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Carl Cook at clcook{at}olywa.net wrote:
>
>
> > So you saying that basically, an advantage of digital photography is that
> > it liberates the photographer from the darkroom? What if the photographer
> > doesn't feel imprisoned?
>
>Where in hell did you get that idea? I assume this is in reply to what I
>wrote. Did you not read it? Was I writing in some alien code?
>
>TOTAL OPPOSITE.
>
>IT RETURNS THE PHOTOGRAPHER TO THE DARKROOM - AND THE DARKROOM TO THE
>PHOTOGRAPHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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