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to: Ellen K.
from: Mike `/m`
date: 2004-12-29 17:39:32
subject: Re: Please wait while Windows saves your settings....

From: Mike '/m' 


Well if you're type A+, then you definitely don't want to be waiting for
W2K to boot up.  In addition to the shutdown slowdowns,  The security
patches have also installed a "feature" that gives me an
hourglass for about 30-60 seconds before I can Ctrl-Alt-Del to log in.  As
a result, I now tend to turn on the PC as I walk by in the morning to make
coffee, and turn it off when I go to bed.

 /m

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 21:28:20 -0800, Ellen K.
 wrote:

>I never shut down my home ones either.   Realize I am Type A+, do not
>want to wait for machine to boot when I sit down at it.
>
>Wonder how much electricity a computer uses actually...  do you know?
>
>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:55:24 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote in
>message :
>
>>
>>This is the desktop in my dining room.  No sense leaving it on overnight,
>>wasting electricity.  Also, I had noticed more crashes when I didn't reboot
>>every couple of days.
>>
>> /m
>>
>>On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 01:21:48 -0800, Ellen K.
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I never shut any of my machines down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:43:52 -0500, Mike '/m'
 wrote in
>>>message :
>>>
>>>>At first I thought it was just me.  At first I thought
there was something
in
>>>>my environment that was causing Windows to take so long to
shut down.  Then
I
>>>>noticed a couple of things.
>>>>
>>>>The first was that a new install of Windows 2000 shut down quickly.
However,
>>>>once I visited the Windows Update site and started to bring
W2K up to date
>>>>with all the critical fixes, the shutdown delay appeared. 
Somewhere during
>>>>the multiple download, install and reboot process, I noticed that the
>>>>shutdowns were taking longer and longer.   It might have
been the download
of
>>>>27 critical patches that was the cause.
>>>>
>>>>At that point I was still thinking it was something I was
doing.  Then I
got a
>>>>new notebook with W2K on it.  I wanted to test the system
recovery, so I
did
>>>>the recovery option that does a clean install of W2K.  The
initial install
>>>>shut down quickly.  However, after I visited Windows Update
and downloaded
the
>>>>critical patches, the shutdown slowness appeared, even on that new
notebook.
>>>>
>>>>So now I'm thinking that it is me or my home network.  Then
I see a cartoon
in
>>>>the November 2004 issue of Optimize, a trade rag for CIO's
published by CMP
>>>>Media.  On page 17 the cartoon shows an office worker who
has fallen asleep
at
>>>>his desk, the clock on the wall says 8:00.  It is nighttime
because you can
>>>>see the window lights of other office buildings in the
background.  There
is a
>>>>cleaning lady looking at the office worker in a darkened
office.  His face
is
>>>>lit up by the glow of the PC's monitor.  On the screen, the
monitor says,
>>>>"Please Wait While Windows Shuts Down".
>>>>
>>>>Once I saw that, I thought, it's not something I'm doing.
>>>>
>>>>So now that begs the question, what in the world is causing
Windows to take
>>>>nearly two minutes from the time I tell it to shutdown
until the time it
>>>>actually shuts down?  It used to take a few seconds.
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone else seen this problem?
>>>>
>>>> /m
>>>>

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