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to: Ad
from: Robert Comer
date: 2007-05-18 07:03:22
subject: Re: Your next PC is... a phone

From: Robert Comer 

>The one thing which is missing is the problem of the display & by the
>sound of it it's something MS is looking like addressing which is good.

It's a super big problem that will not be solved until it can beam the
video right into your brain.  I could care less if I have a Cray3 in my
pocket if I can't see the screen well enough except for 60 letters or so at
a time.

--
Bob Comer



On Fri, 18 May 2007 08:16:41 +0100, Ad
 wrote:

>Rich wrote:
>>    I don't decry the phone.  I very much like my smartphone.  It's not a
>> PC replacement and not even close.  That's not to say a future one
>> couldn't be closer.  What is reported below is not the phone replacing
>> the PC as much as being a portable media player.  The actual article
>> describes other specialty applications not the general purpose
>> functionality of a PC.
>>
>
>
>Riiigght so you do nuclear simulations?
>
>Most smartphones are or are approaching where my old PC/my son's win2K
>pc is (PIII 500 + 256 mb of ram) at least in processor terms.
>
>& soon they'll be quite a lot faster e.g.
>
>http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html
>
>"The ARM CortexTM-A8 processor is the first applications processor based
>on the ARMv7 architecture and is the highest performance, most
>power-efficient processor ever developed by ARM. With the ability to
>scale in speed from 600MHz to greater than 1GHz, the Cortex-A8 processor
>can meet the requirements for power-optimized mobile devices needing
>operation in less than 300mW; and performance-optimized consumer
>applications requiring 2000 Dhrystone MIPS.
>The Cortex-A8 processor is ARM’s first superscalar processor featuring
>technology for enhanced code density and performance,  NEON™ technology
>for multimedia and signal processing, and JazelleR RCT (Runtime
>Compilation Target) technology for efficient support of ahead-of-time
>and just-in-time compilation of Java and other bytecode languages. "
>
>
>Most Smartphones come with bluetooth & bluetooth mice & keyboards are
>growing in range while falling in price. Personally I want a foldable
>keyboard with a trackpad.
>
>Most are coming with a proper USB implemention such that all sorts of
>devices could be plugged in.
>
>Most are coming with pretty impressive storage capacities (or can be
>expanded via increasingly capacious & cheap cards).
>
>
>Most are headed towards a proper OS as the device constraints come off
>due to tech advance (e.g. the Iphone OS will be based on OSX i.e. BSD
>unix) & Motorola et al are headed to linux.
>
>The one thing which is missing is the problem of the display & by the
>sound of it it's something MS is looking like addressing which is good.
>
>Adam
>
>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>     "Ad" >     >
wrote in message
>>     news:464bf527$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>     http://www.physorg.com/news98525702.html
>>
>>     Ah dear me...after all this time of Rich S decrying the phone.....his
>>     masters may be "thinking different".
>>
>>     "While the PDA has existed as a sort of mini-PC for
years, Microsoft
>>     said it would encourage phone manufacturers to formalize the transition
>>     of the phone to a mobile PC through a research initiative called
>>     "Fone+"."
>>
>>
>>     " Microsoft Research chief Craig Mundie said that Microsoft has a
>>     research project called "Fone+" that would allow the
phone to work with
>>     a TV as a secondary display, and one that could allow video stored on
>>     the device to be played back on the television.
>>
>>     For Microsoft, the challenge is extending the PC platform into new
>>     applications and form factors. For many years, the WinHEC confeerence
>>     here has served as the underlying foundation for hardware initiatives
>>     for the Tablet PC and the more recent UMPC, both of which have
>>     struggled. Microsoft's penetration into the smartphone market, however,
>>     has been more successful.
>>
>>     "There's no reason that if this thing were hooked up to a
large display
>>     that we couldn't watch video in this environment," Mundie
said. "
>>
>>     Gosh you mean display is the problem...?
>>
>>     Go on mah son sort out smart phone displays for the rest of us.....
>>
>>
>>     Adam

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