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echo: coffee_klatsch
to: Roger Nelson
from: Roy Witt
date: 2010-05-13 18:42:30
subject: `Right to bear arms`

13 May 10 09:43, Roger Nelson wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> That may be a state law. The M1 can be had from the Civilian
 RW>> Marksmanship Program, 1401 Commerce Blvd, Anniston, AL 36207...they
 RW>> say no FFL is required to transfer surplus military rifles from CMP
 RW>> to an individual.

 RN> Very expensive at $1700.00.  At that price, it may not be surplus and
 RN> I picked the standard one to get a price on.

That's pocket change for a rifle you can't buy anywhere else.

 RW>> Requirements: 1. Be a US citizen at least 18 years of age.

 RN> I've got that covered.  (-:

 RW>> 2. Be legally eligible to purchase a firearm.

 RN> That, too.

 RW>> 3. Be a member of a veterans organization or of a club or
 RW>> state assoociation affiliated with the CMP (contact CMP
 RW>> for a list of over 4500 qualifying clubs/associations).

 RN> I don't like having to join anything.  I may stand a better chance at
 RN> a gun show.  Clubs always denote dues.  In a bowling league, I stand
 RN> a chance of recouping some money.

In a shooting club you would too. You can always pawn the grand prize, or
eat it.

 RW>> 4. Have participated in a marksmanship activity or satisfy
 RW>> with other criteria.

 RN> I still have my certificate from an approved instructor for a license
 RN> to carry.  He let me use his Glock 9m to qualify and from the moment
 RN> that gun was in my hand, I knew it was the one for me, so I bought
 RN> one in .45 caliber.

There you go.

 RW>> Springfield Arms sells an M1A with a tripod and scope mounts. The
 RW>> best feature of this rifle is that the thumb breaker loading clip
 RW>> has been replaced with a 30 round clip that drops out of the bottom
 RW>> like a normal rifle. It also has a shortened version of the M1
 RW>> stock.

 RW>> www.springfieldarmory.com or call 800.680.6866

 RN> Too expensive, but I like the fact that I no longer would have to
 RN> worry about "M-1 thumb."

I wouldn't want one, but that thought came to mind as well, if I were to
need one.

 RW>> CMP also has a pistol competition at Camp Perry every year. 1911
 RW>> pistols are very welcome.

 RN> I have a Colt with shotgun loads in the clip.  I'm not as accurate as
 RN> I once was (with both hands), so this more than makes up for it.  (-:
 RN> Not a good idea, however, to fire more than a few rounds of shotgun
 RN> loads.  The other clips are loaded with the standard 230 grain loads.

IMO, .45 caliber 230 grain jacketed bullets carry quite a wallop in their
own right, but my 2nd round is a JHP...

 RW>> By waiting until your old age, when you're no longer able to go
 RW>> league bowling, you can then join a shooting club.

 RN> I could do that now, but I really don't have that much time to devote
 RN> to it. I don't even have time for a woman in my life right now, but I
 RN> think in the next few months that will change.  I miss being with
 RN> one.

I could go without a woman and not have a problem with it. Going without
would save a lot of wasted hot air; "where ya goin'?" -
"when ya comin'
back?" - "did you take out the trash?" - "my car needs
gas." - etc...

 RW>> There is no longer an assault weapon ban in affect. That law sunset
 RW>> during Bush's admin...

 RN> As much of a gun enthusiast as I am, I don't believe assault weapons
 RN> that fire full automatic are a necessity.  I'd like the BAR if it
 RN> could not fire at all.

FYI, the so-called assault weapons available to the public are semi-autos.
However, you can't buy one in California because of the whacko left there.

I read a report today that Californians have lost the ability to buy ammo
on-line. See, the law there states that a buyer must show California ID
and leave a set of finger prints with the seller (who must keep them on
record, forever). Just another way to thwart the sale of ammo to anyone in
California by anyone from out of the state.

 RW>> Don't they always?

 RN> LOL!  Yes, they do.

 RW>> There are laws against sociopaths aquiring firearms of any kind. One
 RW>> can probably find a black market source if one looks hard enough,
 RW>> but over the counter sales still require a back-ground check by the
 RW>> FBI.

 RN> That has been the case every time I bought a weapon.  Another gun I
 RN> didn't mention is the Colt Peacemaker.  Those things are now going
 RN> for $3,000-5,000 (used) and probably shouldn't be fired.  What's the
 RN> good of having one if all you're going to do is look at it?  A
 RN> picture would serve the same purpose.

To some folks, they're an investment and nothing more. The more pristine
the weapon, the more it's worth. If you have the original box, that's even
worth a few bucks to, expecially if the box has the firearm's serial
number on it.

 RW>> RN> The Sheriff's range here is an open-air pistol and rifle range.

 RW>> If it's a Sheriff's range, it must be open to the public. Since
 RW>> police ranges are paid for by the taxpayers, they're always open to
 RW>> the public, even in California.

 RN> It is.  I've made friends with the range safety officer and since I
 RN> go there around 11:00, I usually get invited to stay and eat lunch.
 RN> That may be because I not only police my brass, but the brass of
 RN> others who don't care about doing what's right.

I police brass too, but not to the extent that a range master would like.
I only take what I can reload and re-use.

                R\%/itt

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