> 0n (28 Oct 05) Kevin Klement wrote to Cindy Haglund...

 >  KK> Hi Cindy,

 >  KK> Thursday October 27 2005, Cindy Haglund writes to Kevin Klement:

 >>  Hi. I am going to find the URL for you on head noises. The
 >> person who sent the URL to me confirms it is not 'junk
 >> science'. Head noises are there, it's not real sound. You
 >> can tell it's not a real sound.

 >  KK> Oh no... your misunderstanding, I was being a smarty cat, I wanted the
 >  KK> same drugs this person is on. 

 >  Head noises are not voices. They're jsut NOISE..

 >  KK> I don't have voices in my head, never had. The only voice I hear is
 >  KK> myself mumbling to myself when I'm pissed off at my helpers, when they
 >  KK> are acting like a idiot.

 >   I don't either. But after being in a noisy place I
 > come away with
 > 'mumble' head noises. They're not voices (aural
 > hallucinations). See

I would say that head noises are aural hallucinations, which normally do
not sound specifically like voices.  My experience is that they can sound
like an orchestra tuning up, a single tone, the mumble of a distant social
gathering, clicking, "loud silence," the tinkling of a tiny bell
(which I can no longer actually hear); a whole variety.  This most likely
differs from person to person.

 > the URL I posted. It's quite interesting. It's hard to
 > explain. You
 > probably have these noises too but if you a hearing
 > person you don't
 > notice them at all because external sound drowns them
 > out.


 >> Another interesting aspect of head noises is memory input.
 >> When I see water running (as in a water fall our from the
 >> faucet) or see a door slam, my memory provides the
 >> associated sound. I know I am not hearing those sounds.

This I don't have.  I can remember what things used to sound like, usually,
but I don't get a sound track when I see them.

 >  KK> Interesting, but like I was saying, never had heard any voices in my
 >  KK> head. A sad story was the lady who tossed her three children into San
 >  KK> Fran bay, she also said she head voices in her head. That was just in
 >  KK> the news.


 >  I was not talkng about VOICES. Voice is not the same
 > as noise.

 >> Drug/naturally induced hallicinations can demonstrate this
 >> phenomena quite eaily.

 >  KK> Magic Mushrooms.. hehehehe...

 >  Sure thing. Actually I think drugs which "cause"
 > hallucinations only
 > trigger what's already there. This is demonstarted by
 > people who have
 > psychotic episodes all on their own...  whatever it is
 > that has us
 > discrinmate reality from imagination is dysfunctional
 > in those
 > persons. Anti psychotic drugs correct that dysfunction
 > but the person
 > involved still has to work at acknowledging the
 > distinction (ignoring
 > that which he or she know isn't real.)

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