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   If the application freezes disabling the task manager may not be =
sufficient.  Windows may display a message reporting that the = application
is not responding and offering an option to terminate it.

   Even without this, if you take the users ability to kill the app this =
way they can either log off, which will kill the app if it does not =
respond to the graceful close request or the user can press the =
computer's reset button or power cycle.

Rich

  "Ellen K." 
wrote in message =
news:t5civ0tshe0fo0969i7gta1lvq9ub35ram{at}4ax.com...
  Thank you for the very fast reply!!!!!!!

  My theory is that recent modifications to the application cause it to
  freeze on the desktop and that is why we are suddenly seeing so many
  users giving it the three-finger salute.  We sent out an email =
yesterday
  telling them to contact the helpdesk rather than abnormally =
terminating,
  remains to be seen how much cooperation we will get, however if we can
  get the managers to enforce it we will be good.

  The absolute ideal thing would be if instead of killing it it would =
pop
  a message "PLEASE CONTACT HELPDESK".

  On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:52:39 -0500, Mike N. 
  wrote in message :

  >
  >  Hopefully your application will still allow the user to close it =
gracefully when the DB server is=20
  >unavailable and restore CTRL-ALT-DEL, otherwise users being focused =
on their work will=20
  >kill the power switch or yank the cord from the wall to continue.
  >
  >Not sure which all OS' this works on, but XP definitely, and possibly =
all :
  >
  >enable the policy "Remove Task Manager," either in GPEDIT or by =
setting the registry entry.=20
  >
  >HKCU\
  > Software\
  >  Microsoft\
  >   Windows\
  >    CurrentVersion\
  >     Policies\
  >      System\DisableTaskMgr =3D dword:1
  >
  >
  >
  >For Less than NT (may have undesirable effects such as no task =
switching):
  >
  >    // Win 95/98/Me
  >      unsigned dummy;
  >      if (!::SystemParametersInfo(SPI_SETSCREENSAVERRUNNING, TRUE, =
&dummy, 0) ){
  >        DWORD rc=3DGetLastError();
  >       //  for failure
  >      }
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:19:15 -0800, Ellen K. =
 wrote:
  >
  >>We had a disaster at work, our legacy system has been down on and =
off
  >>since Thursday.  We have identified that when a connection to the
  >>Advantage Database Server (utility that lets us talk to DBF files as =
if
  >>they were a real database) is abnormally terminated, the resources =
are
  >>not released and after enough of these occur the Novell server =
abends.
  >>
  >>We would like to make it impossible for the users to Ctl-Alt-Del out =
of
  >>the applications.  Is there a registry key or combination of =
registry
  >>keys we can change to accomplish this?   We have both Win98 and W2K
  >>machines using the applications in question, so if the answer is
  >>different for the two OSes please include that information in your
  >>reply.
  >>
  >>TIA,
  >>
  >>Ellen=20

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   If the
application freezes =
disabling=20
the task manager may not be sufficient.  Windows may display a = message=20
reporting that the application is not responding and offering an option = to=20
terminate it.
 
   Even
without this, if you =
take the=20
users ability to kill the app this way they can either log off, which = will kill=20
the app if it does not respond to the graceful close request or the user = can=20
press the computer's reset button or power cycle.
 
Rich
 

  "Ellen K." <72322.enno.esspe=">mailto:72322.enno.esspeayem.1016{at}compuserve.com">72322.enno.esspe=
ayem.1016{at}compuserve.com>=20
  wrote in message news:t5civ0tshe0=
fo0969i7gta1lvq9ub35ram{at}4ax.com...Thank=20
  you for the very fast reply!!!!!!!My theory is that recent=20
  modifications to the application cause it tofreeze on the desktop =
and that=20
  is why we are suddenly seeing so manyusers giving it the =
three-finger=20
  salute.  We sent out an email yesterdaytelling them to =
contact the=20
  helpdesk rather than abnormally terminating,remains to be seen how =
much=20
  cooperation we will get, however if we canget the managers to =
enforce it=20
  we will be good.The absolute ideal thing would be if instead =
of=20
  killing it it would popa message "PLEASE CONTACT =
HELPDESK".On Thu,=20
  27 Jan 2005 12:52:39 -0500, Mike N. <mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net>wr=">mailto:mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net">mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net>wr=
ote in=20
  message <v1aiv0tbtu1c0d=">mailto:v1aiv0tbtu1c0dtps6i0hg1e1g9st6v6t0{at}4ax.com">v1aiv0tbtu1c0d=
tps6i0hg1e1g9st6v6t0{at}4ax.com>:>> =20
  Hopefully your application will still allow the user to close it =
gracefully=20
  when the DB server is >unavailable and restore CTRL-ALT-DEL, =
otherwise=20
  users being focused on their work will >kill the power switch =
or yank=20
  the cord from the wall to
continue.>>Not sure which all =
OS' this=20
  works on, but XP definitely, and possibly all
:>>enable =
the=20
  policy "Remove Task Manager," either in GPEDIT or by setting the =
registry=20
  entry. >>HKCU\>
Software\> =20
  Microsoft\>  
Windows\>   =20
  CurrentVersion\>    =20
 
Policies\>     
System\DisableTaskMgr =
=3D=20
 
dword:1>>>>For
Less than NT (may have =
undesirable=20
  effects such as no task
switching):>>   
=
// Win=20
 
95/98/Me>     
unsigned=20
  dummy;>      if=20
  (!::SystemParametersInfo(SPI_SETSCREENSAVERRUNNING, TRUE, &dummy, =
0)=20
 
){>       
DWORD=20
 
rc=3DGetLastError();>      
=
//  for=20
  failure>     =20
 
}>>>>>On
Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:19:15 =
-0800,=20
  Ellen K. <72322.enno.esspe=">mailto:72322.enno.esspeayem.1016{at}compuserve.com">72322.enno.esspe=
ayem.1016{at}compuserve.com>=20
  wrote:>>>We had a disaster at
work, our legacy system =
has=20
  been down on and off>>since Thursday.  We have =
identified that=20
  when a connection to the>>Advantage Database
Server (utility =
that=20
  lets us talk to DBF files as if>>they were a real
database) =
is=20
  abnormally terminated, the resources are>>not
released and =
after=20
  enough of these occur the Novell server =
abends.>>>>We=20
  would like to make it impossible for the users to Ctl-Alt-Del out=20
  of>>the applications.  Is there a
registry key or =
combination=20
  of registry>>keys we can change to accomplish =
this?   We=20
  have both Win98 and W2K>>machines using the
applications in=20
  question, so if the answer is>>different for the two OSes =
please=20
  include that information in=20
  =
your>>reply.>>>>TIA,>>>>=
;Ellen=20
  

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