Hi Val,
VM > The hardest part of this sticth for me is getting the five points 
stitched
VM > evenly.  After  that it is fairly easy and loads of fun.
VM > Rather than try to tell you myself in my own misunderstood way what a
VM > twisted ribbon rose is I'm going to copy an instruction I have that is
VM > "suppossed" to tell me how to do it.  See if you can do it.  Every time
VM > I try I end up with the entire rose pulling through.
VM > MJ'S TWISTY ROSE by "Creative Beginnings"
VM > Bring needle up at A.  Extend ribbon it's full length and twirl needle
VM > so that ribbon coils up well, but not so tight that it buckles.  The
VM > amount of twist is critical.
VM > Gently grasp the twist at about the midpoint and insert needle back into
VM > fabric just beside from A.  Insert needle until only the eye sticks up
VM > through the fabric.  Release the ribbon and it will automatically
VM > twist itself into a double coil.  Gently smooth the entire length of the
VM > twisted ribbon and pull the needle through to the underside of the
VM > fabric.
I think in your original msg you referred to several other points besides A, 
but in these instructions, you only mention A.  Is there others B, C, D, etc 
and if so we need to know where they are positioned in relation to A.
Also in your comments above you mentioned 5 points, where are they located in 
relationship to A?
To get an idea of what this rose actually will look like, take a scarf or 
dish towel, hold opposite corners and twist fairly tightly.  Then holding the 
centre down on a table, coil the rest of the scarf/towel around the centre. 
For me it takes some imagination to see the rose, but once you add the 
leaves, at least it does look like a flower. If twisted too tightly the 
effect just ins't there.
TTYL
Donna
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