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echo: holysmoke
to: Ceppa
from: EARL CROASMUN
date: 2009-04-12 12:45:22
subject: The Coachman?

~>  EC> The whole story was there.  You just missed it.  Here is the whole
~>  EC> story again.  You said "If he isn't Steve Asher, he's
making a false
~>  EC> claim."  You were wrong.  And the epilogue to the story
is that you
~>  EC> won't just admit it. 

And you still won't!!!

~>  ~> The full story is this: Snyder apparently started the Echo as 
~>  ~> he said.  But, he let the Echo lapse.
 
~> Try figuring out the Snyder didn't even know that his Echo was re-listed.
~> Asher didn't know that.  He thought that EDGE_ONLINE belonged to Steve Q.  

Ah, a change in the story!  StevieQue listed it a total of two times, for a
span of four months (although to you it seemed like "years").  You said he
did it FOR Asher.  Now you say he did it before Asher knew anything of the
ownership.  The reality is that the listing expired, StevieQue grabbed it,
and then said " I still haven't decided what to do with the echo."  The two
of you exchanged e-mails about what to do with it.  He even made you a
co-moderator.  Then a few weeks after that he said "I gave the order to
kill EDGE_ONLINE tonight.  Say bye-bye."  Steve Asher came along a month
LATER, and listed it himself.

Either version is irrelevant to the "whole story," however, because the
"whole story" is that you said "If he isn't Steve Asher, he's making a
false claim."  You seem to now concede that Jeff is NOT Asher, AND you have
conceded that what Jeff said is accurate!  All the rest is a different
story, not a part of this story.

~> Had Asher known Snyder was the one who started it, you might have a case.  

What in the world are you talking about now?

~>  EC> Somewhere in the fog inside your mind, does that lead you to conclude
~>  EC> that he IS Steve Asher?  Surely it cannot lead you to conclude that he
 
~> Because no one ever heard of Snyder until he made his claim.  

Strange, since in this post YOU seem to have heard of him, YOU say he
started the echo, and YOU have even claimed to have insight into what he
did or didn't know.  And now you say you never heard of him?
 
~> Asher knew nothing of Snyder and the original listing. If he did, 
~> he said nothing about it.

Actually he knew of both previous owners, and commented to StevieQue "I
doubt he will be coming back" after listing it himself.  So basically you
are just all over the map making up "facts" that you think will
pass as Facts.

Now, if you ever want to actually do something beyond fictionalizing, why
don't you try figuring if "Jeff Snyder" (the person YOU THOUGHT might be
Steve Asher) is actually the same person as "Bill Kochman?"  THAT was the
name of the original moderator of the echo, not "Jeff Snyder."  And both
claimed to be from Guam!  Given the rule here about "real names," you may
want to wonder about who is posting here under the name "Jeff Snyder."  Or
maybe you won't.  Either way, what you SHOULD have said is "either he is
Bill Kochman, or he is making a false claim."  At one point "Bill
Kochman"
was even going by the name "the Wordweaver," which is also a nickname that
"Jeff Snyder" seems to have used.  Either back then, or now, or possibly
BOTH times, you may have been hoaxed!
 
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