From: "Rich Gauszka"
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I would not expect you to answer it. That's what I said in the prior =
message where you said I rambled and didn't ask a question.
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd8b2d{at}w3.nls.net...
What you now discuss is a far cry from the question you asked =
earlier. My reply to this is simple. Don't expect me to post =
Microsoft's unannounced plans whatever they may be. My suggestion to = you
is that lacking any announcement to the contrary, I would assume the =
status quo.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:41fd81a5{at}w3.nls.net...
Yes I believe Microsoft uses a subscription model in it's business. =
The question is are there plans for the Operating System to be part of =
this? What parts of the MS product line will use a 'deactivation = feature'
similar to the one used by Office XP in New Zealand and =
'delayed' in the US in 2001? =20
=
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,10801,60282,=
00.html
Microsoft Corp. has reversed itself and decided not to offer its =
upcoming Office XP application suite to U.S. users via an Internet-based =
subscription service when the software first becomes available this =
month.=20
However, a Microsoft official said late Friday that executives at =
the company had decided to scrap the subscription model in the U.S. for =
the time being, in an effort to ensure that users have "a near-perfect
= experience with how this [upgrade] is delivered."=20
Office XP will still be available through a subscription model "in a =
few select locations" elsewhere in the world, the Microsoft official =
said, adding that the company does plan to eventually offer the software =
on a subscription basis in the U.S. However, no specific schedule for =
doing that was disclosed.=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd7950$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You didn't ask a question. You just rambled on about what you =
believe are various business models for software.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:41fd4646{at}w3.nls.net...
Of course a 'rental' OS doesn't exist ( that I know of ) from =
MS. It appears that MS has pursued a subscription model with OfficeXP in =
various countries. One can make an assumption that if this is successful =
financially the bean counters at MS would seek the subscription model =
moved to other product lines including the OS. I would expect any =
company to pursue avenues to increase their revenue. I wouldn't expect =
you to confirm or comment on any future plans of a subscription OS ( or =
any other future plans for MS that weren't already publicly available).
I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from MS that the =
company would not move to a subscription model for for at least x number of years is feasible but something
= needs to be done.=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net...
Then ask the question again because the one you did ask =
assumes the existence of something that does not exist, an annual =
subscription to Windows XP that relies on activation to handle when the =
user chooses not to renew. As I mentioned, I've never heard of an = annual
subscription for Windows XP. Based on your reply it doesn't = sound like
you have either.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
That wasn't the question. Whether you like it or not there =
is a concern in the IT community about MS and future plans to rent it's =
software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS has done =
nothing to alleviate those fears with it's current plans that basically =
call legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make them re-certify =
their systems.=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I've never heard of an annual subscription for Windows =
XP. Have you?
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote
in message =
news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net...
But does MS have in it's plan that it would shut off the =
server if the user didn't pay a yearly subscription fee as they were =
doing to Office XP in other countries?
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet
The deactivation feature works similarly in countries =
such as Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP for =
sale on an annual subscription basis. The activation technology turns = off
the software unless the subscriber pays for another year's use.=20
"Rich" wrote in message =
news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net...
"Those who have moved to XP however are screwed, =
once microsoft shuts off the activation server because they no longer =
support XP". Now it is your turn to provide proof of this or retract
= your claim and apologize.
Rich
"Geo" wrote in message =
news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You said "Actually, mike miller started this thread =
with his lie and george's before it." and you also said "If you
believe = I made a specific claim that is false, please quote it
exactly."
Ok you claimed I lied, I believe that specific claim =
is false.
Geo.
"Rich" wrote in message =
news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net...
Actually, mike miller started this thread with =
his lie and george's before it. Ask him to prove his claims or retract =
them. My only claim here is that mike miller's claims are lies =
specifically in regard to enterprise users who do not require activation =
today. If you believe I made a specific claim that is false, please =
quote it exactly.
Rich
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I would not expect you to answer it. That's what I =
said in the=20
prior message where you said I rambled and didn't ask a question. =
<so I=20
asked>
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd8b2d{at}w3.nls.net...
What
you now discuss is =
a far cry=20
from the question you asked earlier. My reply to this is =
simple. =20
Don't expect me to post Microsoft's unannounced plans whatever they =
may=20
be. My suggestion to you is that lacking any announcement to the =
contrary, I would assume the status quo.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:41fd81a5{at}w3.nls.net...
Yes I believe Microsoft uses a subscription =
model in it's=20
business. The question is are there plans for the Operating=20
System to be part of this? What parts of the MS product line =
will use a=20
'deactivation feature' similar to the one used by Office XP in New =
Zealand=20
and 'delayed' in the US in 2001?
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,1080=
1,60282,00.html">http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/sto=
ry/0,10801,60282,00.html
Microsoft Corp. has reversed itself and decided not to offer =
its=20
upcoming Office XP application suite to U.S. users via an =
Internet-based=20
subscription service when the software first becomes available this =
month.=20
However, a Microsoft official said late Friday that executives at =
the=20
company had decided to scrap the subscription model in the U.S. for =
the time=20
being, in an effort to ensure that users have "a near-perfect =
experience=20
with how this [upgrade] is delivered."=20
Office XP will still be available through a subscription model =
"in a few=20
select locations" elsewhere in the world, the Microsoft official =
said,=20
adding that the company does plan to eventually offer the software =
on a=20
subscription basis in the U.S. However, no specific schedule for =
doing that=20
was disclosed.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd7950$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You
didn't ask a =
question. =20
You just rambled on about what you believe are various business =
models for=20
software.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:41fd4646{at}w3.nls.net...
Of course a 'rental' OS
doesn't exist ( =
that I=20
know of ) from MS. It appears that MS has pursued a=20
subscription model with OfficeXP in various countries. One can =
make an=20
assumption that if this is successful financially the bean =
counters at MS would seek the subscription model moved to =
other=20
product lines including the OS. I would expect any company =
to=20
pursue avenues to increase their revenue. I wouldn't =
expect=20
you to confirm or comment on any future plans of a subscription =
OS ( or=20
any other future plans for MS that weren't already publicly=20
available).
I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee =
from MS=20
that the company would not move to a subscription model for =
<fill in the name of the software> for at least x number =
of years=20
is feasible but something needs to be done.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net...
Then ask the =
question again=20
because the one you did ask assumes the existence of something =
that=20
does not exist, an annual subscription to Windows XP that =
relies on=20
activation to handle when the user chooses not to =
renew. As=20
I mentioned, I've never heard of an annual subscription for =
Windows=20
XP. Based on your reply it doesn't sound like you have=20
either.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
wrote=20
in message news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
That wasn't the question. Whether you =
like it or=20
not there is a concern in the IT community about MS and =
future plans=20
to rent it's software ( OS included ) with a yearly =
subscription=20
fee. MS has done nothing to alleviate those fears with it's =
current=20
plans that basically call legitimate activated users of XP =
'liars'=20
and make them re-certify their systems.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I've never =
heard of an=20
annual subscription for Windows XP. Have =
you?
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>=20">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>=20
wrote in message news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net...
But does MS have in it's plan that =
it=20
would shut off the server if the user didn't pay a =
yearly=20
subscription fee as they were doing to Office XP in =
other=20
countries?
http://n" target="new">http://n=">http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet">http://n=
ews.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet
The deactivation feature works similarly in countries =
such as=20
Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office =
XP for=20
sale on an annual subscription basis. The activation =
technology=20
turns off the software unless the subscriber pays for =
another=20
year's use.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in
message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net...
"Those =
who have=20
moved to XP however are screwed, once microsoft shuts =
off the=20
activation server because they no longer support =
XP". =20
Now it is your turn to provide proof of this or =
retract your=20
claim and apologize.
Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
in message news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You said
"Actually, =
mike miller=20
started this thread with his lie and george's =
before=20
it." and you also said "If you believe I made a =
specific=20
claim that is false, please quote it =
exactly."
Ok you claimed I =
lied, I=20
believe that specific claim is false.
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote
in message news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net...
=
Actually, mike=20
miller started this thread with his lie and =
george's=20
before it. Ask him to prove his claims or =
retract=20
them. My only claim here is that mike =
miller's=20
claims are lies specifically in regard to =
enterprise users=20
who do not require activation today. If you =
believe=20
I made a specific claim that is false, please =
quote it=20
exactly.
Rich
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