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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Rich
date: 2005-01-30 16:19:04
subject: Re: more mike miller lies

From: "Rich" 

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   You didn't ask a question.  You just rambled on about what you =
believe are various business models for software.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:41fd4646{at}w3.nls.net...
  Of course a 'rental' OS doesn't exist ( that I know of )  from MS. It =
appears that MS has pursued a subscription model with OfficeXP in = various
countries. One can make an assumption that if this is successful =
financially  the bean counters at MS would seek the subscription model =
moved to other product lines including the OS.  I would expect any =
company to pursue avenues to increase their revenue.  I wouldn't expect =
you to confirm or comment on any future plans of a subscription OS ( or =
any other future plans for MS that weren't already publicly available).

  I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from MS that the company =
would not move to a subscription model for  for at least x number of years is feasible but something needs
= to be done.=20
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net...
       Then ask the question again because the one you did ask assumes =
the existence of something that does not exist, an annual subscription = to
Windows XP that relies on activation to handle when the user chooses = not
to renew.  As I mentioned, I've never heard of an annual = subscription for
Windows XP.  Based on your reply it doesn't sound like = you have either.

    Rich

      "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      That wasn't the question. Whether you like it or not there is a =
concern in the IT community about MS and future plans to rent it's =
software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS has done =
nothing to alleviate those fears with it's current plans that basically =
call legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make them re-certify =
their systems.=20

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
           I've never heard of an annual subscription for Windows XP.  =
Have you?

        Rich

          "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net...
          But does MS have in it's plan that it would shut off the =
server if the user didn't pay a yearly subscription fee as they were =
doing to Office XP in other countries?

          http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet
          The deactivation feature works similarly in countries such as =
Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP for sale on =
an annual subscription basis. The activation technology turns off the =
software unless the subscriber pays for another year's use.=20

            "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net...
               "Those who have moved to XP however are screwed, once =
microsoft shuts off the activation server because they no longer support =
XP".  Now it is your turn to provide proof of this or retract your
claim = and apologize.

            Rich

              "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net...
              You said "Actually, mike miller started this thread with =
his lie and george's before it." and you also said "If you
believe I = made a specific claim that is false, please quote it
exactly."

              Ok you claimed I lied, I believe that specific claim is =
false.

              Geo.
                "Rich"  wrote in message
news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net...
                   Actually, mike miller started this thread with his =
lie and george's before it.  Ask him to prove his claims or retract = them.
 My only claim here is that mike miller's claims are lies = specifically in
regard to enterprise users who do not require activation = today.  If you
believe I made a specific claim that is false, please = quote it exactly.

                Rich
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question.  You=20
just rambled on about what you believe are various business models for=20
software.
 
Rich
 
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> wrote = in message=20 news:41fd4646{at}w3.nls.net... Of course a 'rental' OS doesn't exist ( that = I know of=20 ) from MS. It appears that MS has pursued a subscription = model with=20 OfficeXP in various countries. One can make an assumption that if this = is=20 successful financially the bean counters at MS would seek the=20 subscription model moved to other product lines including the OS. = I=20 would expect any company to pursue avenues to increase their=20 revenue. I wouldn't expect you to confirm or comment on any = future=20 plans of a subscription OS ( or any other future plans for MS that = weren't=20 already publicly available). I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from MS=20 that the company would not move to a subscription model for = <fill in=20 the name of the software> for at least x number of years is = feasible but=20 something needs to be done.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net... Then ask the question = again=20 because the one you did ask assumes the existence of something that = does not=20 exist, an annual subscription to Windows XP that relies on = activation to=20 handle when the user chooses not to renew. As I = mentioned, I've=20 never heard of an annual subscription for Windows XP. Based on = your=20 reply it doesn't sound like you have either. Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net... That wasn't the question. Whether you like it = or not=20 there is a concern in the IT community about MS and future plans = to rent=20 it's software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS = has done=20 nothing to alleviate those fears with it's current plans that = basically=20 call legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make them = re-certify=20 their systems. "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I've never heard = of an annual=20 subscription for Windows XP. Have you? Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> wrote in = message news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net... But does MS have in it's plan that it=20 would shut off the server if the user didn't pay a yearly = subscription fee as they were doing to Office XP in other=20 countries? http://n" target="new">http://n=">http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet">http://n= ews.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet The deactivation feature works similarly in countries such = as=20 Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP = for sale=20 on an annual subscription basis. The activation technology = turns off=20 the software unless the subscriber pays for another year's = use.=20
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net... "Those who = have moved to=20 XP however are screwed, once microsoft shuts off the = activation=20 server because they no longer support XP". Now it is = your turn=20 to provide proof of this or retract your claim and=20 apologize. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> = wrote in=20 message news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net... You said "Actually, mike = miller=20 started this thread with his lie and george's before = it." and=20 you also said "If you believe I made a specific claim that = is=20 false, please quote it exactly." Ok you claimed I lied, I = believe that=20 specific claim is false. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net... Actually, = mike miller=20 started this thread with his lie and george's = before=20 it. Ask him to prove his claims or retract = them. My=20 only claim here is that mike miller's claims are lies=20 specifically in regard to enterprise users who do not = require=20 activation today. If you believe I made a specific = claim=20 that is false, please quote it exactly. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_03DC_01C506E7.6AD9D540-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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