Hello mark,

On Tuesday July 03 2018 16:52, you wrote to me:

 MV>> So use this so called "advanced feature" if you must, but do NOT
 MV>> do it by entering fake telephone numbers in the nodelist.

 ml> the feature is MEANT to be used from the nodelist because that is the
 ml> way things were flowing at that point in time...

What was MEANT was a bad idea.

 ml> your own mantra of "the nodelist is meant to help mailers talk to
 ml> mailers" even supports this...

Ot does not.

 ml>  especially with the limitations of the nodelist at that point
 ml> in time...

What limitations? There never was a limitation on what was put in the system
name field. 
 ml>  i remember (and probably still have) discussions of having
 ml> multiple lines in the nodelist for each node... they would basically
 ml> operate like binkd does with its configuration files and how it
 ml> updates existing data loaded from a conf file with new data from
 ml> another conf file... it allowed for POTS, IP, and was easily extended
 ml> to support new comms methods as they arose...

The idea of putting IP numbers in the phone number field of the nodelist was
extensively discussed in Z2 and experiments were done. In the end the
conclusion was that it was a bad idea an it was decided not to use that method
in Z2 as it would poetentially confuse existing POTS mailers.

Live with it.

 ml> if joe hadn't gotten wrapped up in the internet and making a living
 ml> from it, i'm very sure that this usage would be a lot more widespread
 ml> as well as more developed and enhanced... it would also have stopped a
 ml> lot of ""debates"" like this one... especially when certain FTSC
 ml> members were stomping about it... add that to the realization that it
 ml> is the developers and the average fidonet operators that chose which
 ml> features they will use... that then determines what processes and
 ml> methods are standard practises that the FTSC documents...

In the end it is the nodelist clercks that decide what makes it in the
nodelist. The nodelist clercks in Z2 decided to not allow IP numbers in the
telefone number field. Other zones - except Z1 - followed.


Cheers, Michiel

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