From: "Rich Gauszka"
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Yes I believe Microsoft uses a subscription model in it's business. The =
question is are there plans for the Operating System to be part of this? =
What parts of the MS product line will use a 'deactivation feature' =
similar to the one used by Office XP in New Zealand and 'delayed' in the =
US in 2001? =20
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,10801,60282,=
00.html
Microsoft Corp. has reversed itself and decided not to offer its = upcoming
Office XP application suite to U.S. users via an Internet-based =
subscription service when the software first becomes available this =
month.=20
However, a Microsoft official said late Friday that executives at the =
company had decided to scrap the subscription model in the U.S. for the =
time being, in an effort to ensure that users have "a near-perfect =
experience with how this [upgrade] is delivered."=20
Office XP will still be available through a subscription model "in a
few = select locations" elsewhere in the world, the Microsoft official
said, = adding that the company does plan to eventually offer the software
on a = subscription basis in the U.S. However, no specific schedule for
doing = that was disclosed.=20
=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd7950$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You didn't ask a question. You just rambled on about what you =
believe are various business models for software.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:41fd4646{at}w3.nls.net...
Of course a 'rental' OS doesn't exist ( that I know of ) from MS. =
It appears that MS has pursued a subscription model with OfficeXP in =
various countries. One can make an assumption that if this is successful =
financially the bean counters at MS would seek the subscription model =
moved to other product lines including the OS. I would expect any =
company to pursue avenues to increase their revenue. I wouldn't expect =
you to confirm or comment on any future plans of a subscription OS ( or =
any other future plans for MS that weren't already publicly available).
I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from MS that the company =
would not move to a subscription model for for at least x number of years is feasible but something needs
= to be done.=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net...
Then ask the question again because the one you did ask assumes =
the existence of something that does not exist, an annual subscription = to
Windows XP that relies on activation to handle when the user chooses = not
to renew. As I mentioned, I've never heard of an annual = subscription for
Windows XP. Based on your reply it doesn't sound like = you have either.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
That wasn't the question. Whether you like it or not there is a =
concern in the IT community about MS and future plans to rent it's =
software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS has done =
nothing to alleviate those fears with it's current plans that basically =
call legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make them re-certify =
their systems.=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I've never heard of an annual subscription for Windows XP. =
Have you?
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" wrote in message =
news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net...
But does MS have in it's plan that it would shut off the =
server if the user didn't pay a yearly subscription fee as they were =
doing to Office XP in other countries?
http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet
The deactivation feature works similarly in countries such =
as Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP for sale =
on an annual subscription basis. The activation technology turns off the =
software unless the subscriber pays for another year's use.=20
"Rich" wrote in message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net...
"Those who have moved to XP however are screwed, once =
microsoft shuts off the activation server because they no longer support =
XP". Now it is your turn to provide proof of this or retract your
claim = and apologize.
Rich
"Geo" wrote in message =
news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You said "Actually, mike miller started this thread with =
his lie and george's before it." and you also said "If you
believe I = made a specific claim that is false, please quote it
exactly."
Ok you claimed I lied, I believe that specific claim is =
false.
Geo.
"Rich" wrote in message =
news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net...
Actually, mike miller started this thread with his =
lie and george's before it. Ask him to prove his claims or retract = them.
My only claim here is that mike miller's claims are lies = specifically in
regard to enterprise users who do not require activation = today. If you
believe I made a specific claim that is false, please = quote it exactly.
Rich
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Yes I believe Microsoft uses a subscription
model in =
it's=20
business. The question is are there plans for the Operating =
System to=20
be part of this? What parts of the MS product line will use a =
'deactivation=20
feature' similar to the one used by Office XP in New Zealand and =
'delayed' in=20
the US in 2001?
http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,1080=
1,60282,00.html">http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/sto=
ry/0,10801,60282,00.html
Microsoft Corp. has reversed itself and decided not to offer its =
upcoming=20
Office XP application suite to U.S. users via an Internet-based = subscription=20
service when the software first becomes available this month.
However, a Microsoft official said late Friday that executives at the =
company=20
had decided to scrap the subscription model in the U.S. for the time = being, in=20
an effort to ensure that users have "a near-perfect experience with
how = this=20
[upgrade] is delivered."=20
Office XP will still be available through a subscription model "in a =
few=20
select locations" elsewhere in the world, the Microsoft official said,
= adding=20
that the company does plan to eventually offer the software on a = subscription=20
basis in the U.S. However, no specific schedule for doing that was = disclosed.=20
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd7950$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You
didn't ask a =
question. You=20
just rambled on about what you believe are various business models for =
software.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:41fd4646{at}w3.nls.net...
Of course a 'rental' OS
doesn't exist ( =
that I know=20
of ) from MS. It appears that MS has pursued a =
subscription model=20
with OfficeXP in various countries. One can make an assumption that =
if this=20
is successful financially the bean counters at MS would seek =
the=20
subscription model moved to other product lines including the =
OS.=20
I would expect any company to pursue avenues to increase their =
revenue. I wouldn't expect you to confirm or comment on =
any=20
future plans of a subscription OS ( or any other future plans for MS =
that=20
weren't already publicly available).
I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from =
MS=20
that the company would not move to a subscription model for =
<fill in=20
the name of the software> for at least x number of years is =
feasible but=20
something needs to be done.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net...
Then ask the =
question again=20
because the one you did ask assumes the existence of something =
that does=20
not exist, an annual subscription to Windows XP that relies on =
activation=20
to handle when the user chooses not to renew. As I =
mentioned,=20
I've never heard of an annual subscription for Windows XP. =
Based on=20
your reply it doesn't sound like you have either.
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
=
wrote in=20
message news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
That wasn't the question. Whether you like =
it or not=20
there is a concern in the IT community about MS and future plans =
to rent=20
it's software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS =
has=20
done nothing to alleviate those fears with it's current plans =
that=20
basically call legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make =
them=20
re-certify their systems.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I've never heard =
of an=20
annual subscription for Windows XP. Have =
you?
Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
wrote=20
in message news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net...
But does MS have in it's plan that it=20
would shut off the server if the user didn't pay a =
yearly=20
subscription fee as they were doing to Office XP in other=20
countries?
http://n" target="new">http://n=">http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet">http://n=
ews.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet
The deactivation feature works similarly in countries =
such as=20
Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP =
for sale=20
on an annual subscription basis. The activation technology =
turns off=20
the software unless the subscriber pays for another year's =
use.=20
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net...
"Those who =
have moved to=20
XP however are screwed, once microsoft shuts off the =
activation=20
server because they no longer support XP". Now it is =
your=20
turn to provide proof of this or retract your claim and=20
apologize.
Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
=
wrote in=20
message news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net...
You said
"Actually, =
mike miller=20
started this thread with his lie and george's =
before it."=20
and you also said "If you believe I made a specific =
claim that=20
is false, please quote it exactly."
Ok you claimed I lied, =
I believe=20
that specific claim is false.
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in
message news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net...
=
Actually, mike=20
miller started this thread with his lie and =
george's=20
before it. Ask him to prove his claims or =
retract=20
them. My only claim here is that mike miller's =
claims=20
are lies specifically in regard to enterprise users =
who do not=20
require activation today. If you believe I made =
a=20
specific claim that is false, please quote it=20
exactly.
Rich
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