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from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2005-01-30 15:41:22
subject: Re: more mike miller lies

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

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Of course a 'rental' OS doesn't exist ( that I know of )  from MS. It =
appears that MS has pursued a subscription model with OfficeXP in = various
countries. One can make an assumption that if this is successful =
financially  the bean counters at MS would seek the subscription model =
moved to other product lines including the OS.  I would expect any =
company to pursue avenues to increase their revenue.  I wouldn't expect =
you to confirm or comment on any future plans of a subscription OS ( or =
any other future plans for MS that weren't already publicly available).

I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from MS that the company would =
not move to a subscription model for  = for at least x number of years is feasible but something
needs to be = done.=20
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net...
     Then ask the question again because the one you did ask assumes the =
existence of something that does not exist, an annual subscription to =
Windows XP that relies on activation to handle when the user chooses not =
to renew.  As I mentioned, I've never heard of an annual subscription = for
Windows XP.  Based on your reply it doesn't sound like you have = either.

  Rich

    "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    That wasn't the question. Whether you like it or not there is a =
concern in the IT community about MS and future plans to rent it's =
software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS has done =
nothing to alleviate those fears with it's current plans that basically =
call legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make them re-certify =
their systems.=20

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         I've never heard of an annual subscription for Windows XP.  =
Have you?

      Rich

        "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net...
        But does MS have in it's plan that it would shut off the server =
if the user didn't pay a yearly subscription fee as they were doing to =
Office XP in other countries?

        http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet
        The deactivation feature works similarly in countries such as =
Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP for sale on =
an annual subscription basis. The activation technology turns off the =
software unless the subscriber pays for another year's use.=20

          "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net...
             "Those who have moved to XP however are screwed, once =
microsoft shuts off the activation server because they no longer support =
XP".  Now it is your turn to provide proof of this or retract your
claim = and apologize.

          Rich

            "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net...
            You said "Actually, mike miller started this thread with his =
lie and george's before it." and you also said "If you believe I
made a = specific claim that is false, please quote it exactly."

            Ok you claimed I lied, I believe that specific claim is =
false.

            Geo.
              "Rich"  wrote in message news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net...
                 Actually, mike miller started this thread with his lie =
and george's before it.  Ask him to prove his claims or retract them.  = My
only claim here is that mike miller's claims are lies specifically in =
regard to enterprise users who do not require activation today.  If you =
believe I made a specific claim that is false, please quote it exactly.

              Rich
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Of course a 'rental' OS doesn't
exist ( that I =
know of=20
)  from MS. It appears that MS has pursued a subscription =
model with=20
OfficeXP in various countries. One can make an assumption that if this = is=20
successful financially  the bean counters at MS would seek the =
subscription=20
model moved to other product lines including the OS.  I
would = expect=20
any company to pursue avenues to increase their
revenue.  I = wouldn't=20
expect you to confirm or comment on any future plans of a subscription = OS ( or=20
any other future plans for MS that weren't already publicly=20
available).
 
I'm not sure if anything like a guarantee from MS=20
that the company would not move to a subscription model for =
<fill in the=20
name of the software> for at least x number of years is feasible
but=20 something needs to be done. 
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd3ea9{at}w3.nls.net... Then ask the question = again because=20 the one you did ask assumes the existence of something that does not = exist, an=20 annual subscription to Windows XP that relies on activation to handle=20 when the user chooses not to renew. As I mentioned, I've = never=20 heard of an annual subscription for Windows XP. Based on your = reply it=20 doesn't sound like you have either. Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message news:41fd2ce3$1{at}w3.nls.net... That wasn't the question. Whether you like it or = not there=20 is a concern in the IT community about MS and future plans to rent = it's=20 software ( OS included ) with a yearly subscription fee. MS has done = nothing=20 to alleviate those fears with it's current plans that basically call = legitimate activated users of XP 'liars' and make them re-certify = their=20 systems. "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd2020$1{at}w3.nls.net...
I've never heard of = an annual=20 subscription for Windows XP. Have you? Rich
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> = wrote in=20 message news:41fd1872{at}w3.nls.net... But does MS have in it's plan that it = would shut=20 off the server if the user didn't pay a yearly subscription fee = as they=20 were doing to Office XP in other countries? http://n" target="new">http://n=">http://news.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet">http://n= ews.com.com/2100-1001-269085.html?legacy=3Dcnet The deactivation feature works similarly in countries such as = Australia and New Zealand, where Microsoft offers Office XP for = sale on=20 an annual subscription basis. The activation technology turns = off the=20 software unless the subscriber pays for another year's use. =
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fd1029{at}w3.nls.net... "Those who have = moved to XP=20 however are screwed, once microsoft shuts off the activation = server=20 because they no longer support XP". Now it is your turn = to=20 provide proof of this or retract your claim and=20 apologize. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net> = wrote in=20 message news:41fcf0ad$1{at}w3.nls.net... You said "Actually, mike = miller started=20 this thread with his lie and george's before it." and = you also=20 said "If you believe I made a specific claim that is false, = please=20 quote it exactly." Ok you claimed I lied, I = believe that=20 specific claim is false. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:41fc56cb{at}w3.nls.net... Actually, = mike miller=20 started this thread with his lie and george's before=20 it. Ask him to prove his claims or retract = them. My=20 only claim here is that mike miller's claims are lies = specifically=20 in regard to enterprise users who do not require = activation=20 today. If you believe I made a specific claim that = is false,=20 please quote it exactly. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C506E2.26C38310-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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