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echo: educator
to: MICHAEL MARTINEZ
from: RON MCDERMOTT
date: 1996-08-02 09:08:00
subject: IVAN ILLICH 2/2

MM>End of story.  No loss or harm to society.  If you kill a few other 
MM>people too, well they had the choice to fly with you.
Or you landed on them unbidden... In the process, you maybe
destroyed a school, hospital, etc costing hundreds of lives.
Insurance companies were forced to pay out millions in 
claims, went bust, leaving thousands without insurance.  
The uninsured rioted, burning and looting a major city, 
leading to more deaths, more destruction, more insurance
claims, more bankruptcies, and further violence... After 12
months of this, civilization collapsed and the cockroaches
took over - See how much fun this conjecture stuff can be!
MM>If you lie to them about your abilities, that's the chance they took.
They're not allowed to ask; THAT would be discriminatory... 
MM>They could have just as easily gone to another pilot
MM>who they've actually _seen_ flying a plane, or they're neighbors
MM>told them that he had flown them before and he's reliable.  It's word
MM>of mouth.
It's CREDENTIALS... Just a different form....
MM>Airline pilots flying drunk.
Which your hypothetical pilot could do as well...
MM>What's the difference, except that you don't _know_ he's flying drunk
MM>because his certification and the power of the airline corporations
MM>shield him from inquiry.
This is nonsense... First of all, it wouldn't matter which
siutuation applied, you STILL wouldn't know he's flying 
drunk, and if you didn't like the ride, you wouldn't come 
back.  So far, no difference....  In one case, you're in
the position of trusting the airline, in the other, you're
in the position of trusting the pilot (or maybe, if you're
lucky, people you know - It is HIGHLY unlikely, however,
that people you know are going to be able to refer you to a
specific pilot who will take you to Germany).  Either way,
you are put in a position of seeking certification of the
pilot, and either way, a poor pilot can be found out, but
might NOT be...
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