On 2018 Jul 10 08:17:40, you wrote to me:

 KvE>>>>> My guess is that your phone generates a dial tone when it
 KvE>>>>> establishes a free channel to the exchange.

 BF>>>> Yeah, that's probably it. Just as you get a dial tone from your
 BF>>>> VoIP "modem" and not from the internet.

 RB>>> Grab at straws, Bjorn, grab at straws.

 ml>> it pays to know how these things work, bob... not just what you
 ml>> (general) see, hear or feel ;)

 RB> It also pays to note what works and what dos not.

no kidding... ISDN does not have dial tone on the bare wires... some of us know
that... some of us do not yet they fight to the bare bloody knuckle bones that
there is dial tone where there cannot be...

 RB> And to accept the truth, even when it doesn't agree with your own idea
 RB> of what should be.

you are looking in the mirror, aren't you?

 RB> Strange that you should jump into Bjorn's corner without the slightest
 RB> idea of what really occurred.

ummm... he and others are in my corner, sir... i'm the one that made the
statement about there being no dial tone on ISDN lines... are you mixing topic
threads?? i understand that you and he have a beef about you not being able to
connect to his ISDN but that's another thread branch, AFAIK... it has nothing
to do with this discussion about dial tone on bare ISDN lines...

 RB> On the other hand, I send and receive many fido connections daily from
 RB> all sorts of systems without the slightest problem. So you be happy
 RB> making assumptions, and I'll continue being happy to accept the facts.

sail on, my good man... you know the surface of the water in which you sail...
the rest of us will continue working underwater keeping the hidden and unknown
channels clear for you to sail obliviously through...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it
wrong...
... Erronious error. Nothing wrong.
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