From: "Rich" 

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   No.  Something is unsafe if it has the potential to be harmful.  Mike =
is trying to make the claim that unsafe is synonymous with harmful.  The =
content determines if something is harmful.  The extension determines if =
something is unsafe.

Rich

  "Ellen K."  wrote in message =
news:k9hb011rtr0siv8c7h75cq20inh11d7gkc{at}4ax.com...
  I think Rich was just making a verbal shortcut, meaning "files with
  extensions predefined as unsafe".

  On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:01:13 -0500, Mike '/m'  wrote =
in
  message :

  >
  >It is the content, not the extension, that determines whether or not =
a file is
  >safe.
  >
  >  /m
  >
  >On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:34:44 -0800, "Rich"  wrote:
  >
  >>   What everyone I know does if they need to send unsafe files by =
email is to rename them to have a "safe" extension and to send
that.  = The recipient saves it and renames it back.
  >>
  >>   There are administrator controls but this comes up so rarely I =
can't remember when the last person asked.
  >>
  >>Rich
  >>
  >>  "Ellen K."  wrote in message =
news:a8n4015isr1b71cf9vemdkp9t6eh5pbtd2{at}4ax.com...
  >>  Which brings us back to the nasty question of, to what extent =
should
  >>  users be protected against their own stupidity?  If Microsoft let =
these
  >>  through, people would say they are impairing security.   In fact =
users
  >>  clicking on attachments has been one of the biggest ways viruses =
spread.
  >>
  >>  I'm wondering whether the Help File posted below has an =
alternative,
  >>  since the behavior described is labelled the
"default"... i.e. =
this name
  >>  implies that some other possibility also exists.  Rich?
  >>
  >>  On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:10:58 -0500, Mike '/m'  =
wrote in
  >>  message :
  >>
  >>  >
  >>  >That feature has converted some friends away from Outlook to =
another, any
  >>  >other, email client.  They cannot understand why the email client =
does not
  >>  >allow them access to what is sent to them.
  >>  >
  >>  > /m
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>  >On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:08:20 -0600, "Robert G Lewis" =

  >>  >wrote:
  >>  >
  >>  >>Ah HA
  >>  >>
  >>  >>From the Help File 
  >>  >>
  >>  >>a.. By default, Microsoft Outlook blocks attachment
files ( such =
as .bat,=20
  >>  >>.exe, .vbs, and .js) that can contain viruses. You
cannot see or =
access the=20
  >>  >>attachments. Your Inbox will display the paperclip icon in the =
Attachment=20
  >>  >>column to let you know that the message has an attachment, and =
you will see=20
  >>  >>a list of the blocked attachment files in the InfoBar
at the top =
of your=20
  >>  >>message. If you try to open the attachment by
right-clicking the =
item, View=20
  >>  >>Attachments will not appear on the shortcut menu. If
you need to =
use files,=20
  >>  >>such as .exe files, from others, have them post the files to a =
network share=20
  >>  >>or to a Web share that you can access.
  >>  >>
  >>  >>Except it doesn't show in the inforbar and .MSO is not
listed as =
a blocked=20
  >>  >>file in Outlook 2002 so ......
  >>  >>
  >>  >>
  >>  >>
  >>  >>
  >>  >>"Geo"  wrote in message =
news:42017edd$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>  >>> "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
  >>  >>> news:42016ab0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >>  >>>
  >>  >>>> I'm right clicking on the Inbox message list
for that email =
and can view
  >>  >>> or
  >>  >>>> open the attachment, I don't see the
attachment in either =
preview or
  >>  >>> opened
  >>  >>>> email.
  >>  >>>
  >>  >>> Excellent, just what I was looking for, thanks.
  >>  >>>
  >>  >>> Geo.
  >>  >>>
  >>  >>>=20
  >>  >>

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No.  Something is =
unsafe if it=20
has the potential to be harmful.  Mike is trying to make the claim = that=20
unsafe is synonymous with harmful.  The content determines if =
something is=20
harmful.  The extension determines if something is =
unsafe.
 
Rich
 

  "Ellen K." <72322.1016{at}compuserve.com&g=">mailto:72322.1016{at}compuserve.com">72322.1016{at}compuserve.com&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message news:k9hb011rtr0=
siv8c7h75cq20inh11d7gkc{at}4ax.com...I=20
  think Rich was just making a verbal shortcut, meaning "files=20
  withextensions predefined as
unsafe".On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 =
17:01:13=20
  -0500, Mike '/m' <mike{at}barkto.com>=20">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>=20
  wrote inmessage <k3s70153e3tkvs=">mailto:k3s70153e3tkvs6prmst408kh53p5bo5j7{at}4ax.com">k3s70153e3tkvs=
6prmst408kh53p5bo5j7{at}4ax.com>:>>It=20
  is the content, not the extension, that determines whether or not a =
file=20
  is>safe.>> 
/m>>On Thu, 3 Feb =
2005=20
  17:34:44 -0800, "Rich" <{at}> =
wrote:>>>   What=20
  everyone I know does if they need to send unsafe files by email is to =
rename=20
  them to have a "safe" extension and to send that.  The
recipient =
saves it=20
  and renames it
back.>>>>  
There are=20
  administrator controls but this comes up so rarely I can't remember =
when the=20
  last person =
asked.>>>>Rich>>>> =20
  "Ellen K." <72322.1016{at}compuserve.com&g=">mailto:72322.1016{at}compuserve.com">72322.1016{at}compuserve.com&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message news:a8n4015isr1=
b71cf9vemdkp9t6eh5pbtd2{at}4ax.com...>> =20
  Which brings us back to the nasty question of, to what extent=20
  should>>  users be protected against their own =
stupidity? =20
  If Microsoft let these>>  through,
people would say =
they are=20
  impairing security.   In fact
users>>  =
clicking on=20
  attachments has been one of the biggest ways viruses=20
  spread.>>>>  I'm
wondering whether the Help =
File=20
  posted below has an alternative,>> 
since the behavior=20
  described is labelled the "default"... i.e. this =
name>> =20
  implies that some other possibility also exists. =20
  Rich?>>>>  On
Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:10:58 =
-0500, Mike=20
  '/m' <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
=
wrote=20
  in>>  message <3f5301d75mapmv=">mailto:3f5301d75mapmv5dppc0nvnnvkjdj3snmr{at}4ax.com">3f5301d75mapmv=
5dppc0nvnnvkjdj3snmr{at}4ax.com>:>>>> =20
  >>>  >That feature has
converted some friends =
away from=20
  Outlook to another, any>>  >other, email =
client.  They=20
  cannot understand why the email client does
not>>  =
>allow=20
  them access to what is sent to them.>>  =
>>> =20
  > /m>> 
>>>  =
>>>  >On=20
  Wed, 2 Feb 2005 20:08:20 -0600, "Robert G Lewis" <r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>&g=">mailto:r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net">r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>&g=
t;> =20
  >wrote:>> 
>>>  >>Ah=20
  HA>> 
>>>>  >>From
the Help =
File=20
  <g>>> 
>>>>  >>a.. By
=
default,=20
  Microsoft Outlook blocks attachment files ( such as .bat, =
>> =20
  >>.exe, .vbs, and .js) that can contain viruses. You cannot see =
or=20
  access the >> 
>>attachments. Your Inbox will =
display the=20
  paperclip icon in the Attachment >> 
>>column to =
let you=20
  know that the message has an attachment, and you will see =
>> =20
  >>a list of the blocked attachment files in the InfoBar at the =
top of=20
  your >>  >>message. If you
try to open the =
attachment by=20
  right-clicking the item, View >> 
>>Attachments =
will not=20
  appear on the shortcut menu. If you need to use files, =
>> =20
  >>such as .exe files, from others, have them post the files to a =
network=20
  share >>  >>or to a Web
share that you can=20
  access.>> 
>>>>  >>Except
it =
doesn't=20
  show in the inforbar and .MSO is not listed as a blocked =
>> =20
  >>file in Outlook 2002 so
......>> =20
  >>>> 
>>>> =20
  >>>> 
>>>> 
>>"Geo" =
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:42017edd$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>> =20
  >>> "Robert G Lewis" <r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>">mailto:r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net">r.g.lewis{at}comcast.net>
=
wrote in=20
  message>>  >>> news:42016ab0$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>> =20
  >>>>> 
>>>> I'm right clicking on =
the=20
  Inbox message list for that email and can
view>>  =
>>>=20
  or>>  >>>>
open the attachment, I don't see =
the=20
  attachment in either preview or>> 
>>>=20
  opened>> 
>>>>
email.>> =20
  >>>>> 
>>> Excellent, just what I was =
looking=20
  for, thanks.>> 
>>>>>  =
>>>=20
  Geo.>> 
>>>>> 
>>>=20
  >> 
>>

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