-=> On 07-04-18 16:22, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

 MvV> Hello Tony,

 MvV> On Tuesday July 03 2018 10:22, you wrote to mark lewis:

 TL> I always use the area codes, because I never know where I am, though
 TL> you can still dial local numbers without them on mobiles.

 MvV> Here local numbers can not be dialed from the mobile without area
 MvV> codes. Seen from the mobile every call is a "national call".

That's the same here, and they are charged the same - 0c on mine. :)

 MvV> But, it goes one step further. One can alway dial the full
 MvV> international number. Even for calls within one's own country. So..
 MvV> international access code (00), Country code for the Netherlands (61)
 MvV> Area code without the leading zero (343) and the subscriber's number
 MvV> (518411).

I can save numbers in international format (+61....) and they can be dialed
from anywhere, inside or outside the country.  But from outside, I'd be using
other means (probably a VoIP softphone or a local SIM), because roaming charges
are still expensive.

 MvV> This is part of the GSM standard. International roaming is part of the
 MvV> GSM standard. So I enter the numbers as full international numbers in
 MvV> the phone. Even the numbers in my own country, That way I can dial them
 MvV> from the internal phone book without even knowing in what country I am.
 MvV> That may not be all that usefull in Australia, but in Europe,
 MvV> especially when living  in a small country, is can be usefull. Here it
 MvV> is less than a one hour drive to the German of Belgian border.

Yep.  Only have to put them in the international format (+61...), not the full
dialing (001161...).

 MvV> And I just discovered that dialing the full international number also
 MvV> works on both my VOIP lines...

I haven't tried that one.  I did have a VoIP account that I had all numbers
dialed with the country prefix (but no international prefix).  I could have set
it to work as a local number, but decided to keep it international, as it made
dialing overseas and IP only numbers easier (didn't need the 0011).


... They don't make antiques like they used to.
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