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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Geo
date: 2005-02-03 06:25:38
subject: Re: Broadcast flag

From: "Geo" 

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I don't know where pcworld got their info but that's not what the EFF is =
saying about it.

Geo.
  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:4201a935$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  The broadcast flag's rules get a bit strange ( why would news be =
flagged? ). Also content recorded with the flag with new equipment =
probably won't be viewable on legacy dvd players. That will piss off =
quite a few people

  http://msn.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114649,00.asp
  Q. Can you legally transfer that episode from your networked PVR to =
another TV or recorder in your own home?

  Q. Can you still copy your favorite program, so you don't have to =
watch it at its scheduled time?

  A. Yes.

  Q. Can you copy it to a DVD?

  A. Yes. Even if you stored it on a hard disk first, you should still =
be able to transfer that content to a single DVD--and possibly make a =
back-up copy, but that will depend on the specific restriction given to =
your recording device by the flag. I wouldn't count on lots of backups.

  A. Maybe. The FCC isn't clear on that, although the ruling does allow =
for that possibility. It's only supposed to affect indiscriminate, =
widespread redistribution (read: via peer-to-peer). There seems to be no =
outright guarantee, however, that the glorious, easy-to-use home =
entertainment network promised by consumer electronics and computer =
vendors alike--the network that lets video and music content get = shuttled
around seamlessly from your living room DVD recorder to your = upstairs TV
to your PC in the office to your stereo in the den--will = actually be
possible.

  Q. Do I have to get new equipment?

  A. That's practically guaranteed. You should be able to view flagged =
content on legacy equipment (as long as that equipment can handle = digital
signals), and you'll still be able to record that content on = your VCR.
However, if you buy a DVD recorder or a new TiVo device that = recognizes
the flag--as they're all supposed to do by mid-2005--and use = it to record
your favorite episode, you probably won't be able to play = that disc back
on older DVD players. In other words, once you've = recorded it with a
device or medium that sees the flag, that content is = locked to devices
that can't see the flag.

  Q. Will every program be flagged?

  A. Nope. That's up to the individual content provider. Pay-per-view =
content will likely have the most restrictions, and older reruns =
less--maybe even none. One curiosity: News programs probably will be =
flagged, even though there is no syndication issue with them and =
timeliness is, clearly, of the essence.


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:42019dab$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Do the broadcast flag rules prohibit you recording a broadcast or =
do they prohibit the redistribution of the recording?

    Rich

      "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:42017dab$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      That's going to piss off a lot of people come the time the =
broadcast flag starts getting used. Should be interesting once the = people
find that although they can't record something they can stop = leasing
their public airwaves to the broadcasters. (or maybe just demand = more
money for those airwaves in the case of broadcast flag usage)

      Wouldn't that be a riot .

      Geo.
        "Rich"  wrote in message news:42005902{at}w3.nls.net...
           No.  That is the content of the broadcaster or one of its =
suppliers.  Your content is content you produce.

        Rich

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I don't know where pcworld got their =
info but=20
that's not what the EFF is saying about it.
 
Geo.
"Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com> wrote = in message=20 news:4201a935$1{at}w3.nls.net... The broadcast flag's rules get a bit strange ( why = would=20 news be flagged? ). Also content recorded with = the flag=20 with new equipment probably won't be viewable on legacy dvd players. = That will=20 piss off quite a few people http://m" target="new">http://m=">http://msn.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114649,00.asp">http://m= sn.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,114649,00.asp Q. Can you legally transfer = that=20 episode from your networked PVR to another TV or recorder in your own=20 home? Q. Can you still copy your = favorite=20 program, so you don't have to watch it at its scheduled time? A. Yes. Q. Can you copy it to a = DVD? A. Yes. Even if you stored = it on a=20 hard disk first, you should still be able to transfer that content to = a single=20 DVD--and possibly make a back-up copy, but that will depend on the = specific=20 restriction given to your recording device by the flag. I wouldn't = count on=20 lots of backups. A. Maybe. The FCC isn't = clear on=20 that, although the ruling does allow for that possibility. It's only = supposed=20 to affect indiscriminate, widespread redistribution (read: via = peer-to-peer).=20 There seems to be no outright guarantee, however, that the glorious,=20 easy-to-use home entertainment network promised by consumer = electronics and=20 computer vendors alike--the network that lets video and music content = get=20 shuttled around seamlessly from your living room DVD recorder to your = upstairs=20 TV to your PC in the office to your stereo in the den--will actually = be=20 possible. Q. Do I have to get new=20 equipment? A. That's practically = guaranteed. You=20 should be able to view flagged content on legacy equipment (as long as = that=20 equipment can handle digital signals), and you'll still be able to = record that=20 content on your VCR. However, if you buy a DVD recorder or a new TiVo = device=20 that recognizes the flag--as they're all supposed to do by = mid-2005--and use=20 it to record your favorite episode, you probably won't be able to play = that=20 disc back on older DVD players. In other words, once you've recorded = it with a=20 device or medium that sees the flag, that content is locked to devices = that=20 can't see the flag. Q. Will every program be = flagged? A. Nope. That's up to the = individual=20 content provider. Pay-per-view content will likely have the most = restrictions,=20 and older reruns less--maybe even none. One curiosity: News programs = probably=20 will be flagged, even though there is no syndication issue with them = and=20 timeliness is, clearly, of the essence.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42019dab$1{at}w3.nls.net... Do the broadcast flag = rules=20 prohibit you recording a broadcast or do they prohibit the = redistribution of=20 the recording? Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20 wrote in message news:42017dab$1{at}w3.nls.net... That's going to piss off a lot of = people come=20 the time the broadcast flag starts getting used. Should be = interesting=20 once the people find that although they can't record something = they can=20 stop leasing their public airwaves to the broadcasters. (or maybe = just=20 demand more money for those airwaves in the case of broadcast flag = usage) Wouldn't that be a riot=20 <g>. Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42005902{at}w3.nls.net... No. That is = the content=20 of the broadcaster or one of its suppliers. Your content = is=20 content you produce. Rich ------=_NextPart_000_00AE_01C509B9.2D63EB90-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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