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echo: mystic
to: Bjrn Wiberg
from: Gaston Martres
date: 2022-04-10 17:04:00
subject: Re: GMail...

 BW> On 09 Apr 2022, Al DeRosa said the following...
 BW>  
 BW>  AD> Google is going to not allow less secure apps to access their platfor
 BW>  AD> next month.. Is there a way around this for using the password reset
 BW>  AD> function? I chose Gmail back in the day when this feature was introdu
 BW>  AD> because the docs pretty much said it was simpler to use. Can we use a
 BW>  AD> regular email account?
 BW> 
 BW> Just about any e-mail provider which accepts SMTP message submission
 BW> should work, I think.
 BW> 
 BW> However -- if I recall correctly -- when speaking to the SMTP server,
 BW> Mystic will say:
 BW> 
 BW> MAIL FROM: 
 BW> 
 BW> ...and it will also (in the message headers, i.e., as part of the
 BW> message data) state:
 BW> 
 BW> From: 
 BW> 
 BW> ...where yourbbsdomain.here is the value of Servers --> General Options
 BW> --> Domain Name.
 BW> 
 BW> This might cause some e-mail services to refuse the message -- even
 BW> though Mystic authenticates itself to the SMTP server using the
 BW> credentials from Servers --> General Options --> SMTP Login and Servers
 BW> --> General Options --> SMTP Password.
 BW> 
 BW> I know Microsoft's outlook.com e-mail service refuse such messages, for
 BW> example.
 BW> 
 BW> In my case, I had to configure Mystic to submit the e-mails to my
 BW> locally-listening-and-relaying SMTP server on my Linux box instead, and
 BW> have that one rewrite sysop@scbbs.nsupdate.info in the message data to
 BW> match the actual e-mail address of the outlook.com account... And let it
 BW> relay the e-mail to outlook.com, authenticating with the outlook.com
 BW> account credentials.
It is known that microsoft expects a few thing just for allowing you to send mail to outlook.com,hotmail.com and so accounts.
One of this things is to join or pay a subscription to their service for secure mails or mail servers. I dont recall right now the name, but this is one of the things that made me drop out offering hosting plans when I had a hosting service.

 BW> 
 BW> So there might be some pitfalls, but in any case, it's worth trying out
 BW> another e-mail provider.
For other smtp servers and mail providers it is not enough just using TLS. You will have to configure DKIM keys and dns entries, SPF entries as well, a reverse dns pointing to your mail server, a good reputation on RBL lists, and so on.

Cheers!
Cyberzoo

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