On 2018 Jul 02 12:21:20, you wrote to me:

 MV>>> How about a minimalistic example. One that will still allow an Aussie
 MV>>> POTS node to dial his/her NC and dial 000 from the nodelist?

 MV>>> DIAL
 MV>>>  61- 0
 MV>>> END

 ml>> that won't work... a local has the 61-x stripped off...

 MV> That's one way of calling a local number.

as tony just pointed out, this is true... i was under the impression that that
format would fail but apparently it works these days... nothing was said about
if it worked back in the '80s and '90s...

 ml>> the above doesn't do that

 MV> Indeed. It translates 61-2-9727-7775 into 02-9727-7775. That will dial
 MV> Scott Little's system.

see above...

 ml>> so at best they'll be trying to dial a LD domestic number... our
 ml>> system over here tells you you don't need to dial those extra leading
 ml>> digits and then hangs up... so no collection even over the LD wires
 ml>> which could cost more...

 MV> Widen your horizon.

what do you think i've been doing by asking all these questions and posting
responses looking for correction??

 MV> The world of automatic telephony is bigger than what is covered by
 MV> country code 1. In Europe and in Australia we can have a choice on how
 MV> to dial local numbers. We can either just dial the local number or we
 MV> can dial the ten digit sequence of the area code plus the local
 MV> number.

areacodes are required here, now... they weren't maybe 10 years ago...

 MV> Area codes are always dialled with a leading zero to distinguish them
 MV> from local numbers.

we don't do that... 0 is the operator...

 MV>  There is no such thng as "LD wires" here.

how do you make LD calls to other countries, then? LD calls travel differently
than plain domestic or local calls ;)

 MV> There is no penalty on calling a local number with the full ten digit
 MV> sequence, the cost is the same.

interesting...

 MV> Calling Scott Little's system by dialling 02-9727-7775 works from
 MV> within all of Australia at no extra cost.

i wonder what happens if they include the leading 61-? and using 0x from
everywhere in OZ works, then they only need a dial translation table to strip
000- and a cost table to set a high cost for 000- nubers to prevent POTS
mailers from trying to dial them...

 MV> The example works.

in this case, sure but more testing is needed by those with knowledge of how it
used to work and how it works today...

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