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to: DON SHOEBRIDGE
from: WYATT DOOLEY
date: 1996-07-30 18:25:00
subject: We? 1/3

DS>ML>   The media has you convinced we can't win so you are going to lay 
own
DS>ML>and quit? That's exactly what they want us to do.
DS>Who are you refering to when you say "we"?  If you mean Republican, I
DS>don't much care if they loose.  Democrates, I hope they will loose.
DS>But, as for me, I'm one of those that will be accussed of spliting the
DS>vote, because I'm voting Libertarian.  I'd rather not have either Bob
DS>(on the) Dole or Billary Klinton in the White House.
   Don't think that you are alone here. I will NOT compromise my principals
   by voting for tweedlebill or tweedlebob.  NO Compromises...
   It simply amazes me that all the people that complain about the NRA
   compromising our rights away are going to support this weasel.
   Do a feces consolidation guys you can't have it both ways. You can't
   vote for Bob Dole and expect your gun rights to stay intact look at his
   record from the GOA's fax.
What a Week -- Dole Supports "Instant" Gun Registration; Sides with Clinton
in Veto of Gun Ban Repeal!
by Gun Owners of America 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585, fax: 321-8408
 (Saturday, July 13) -- Former Senator Bob Dole reversed himself yet again on
Thursday on the issue of repealing the gun ban. The Washington Times reported
yesterday that Dole "changed his position again on a repeal of the assault-
weapons ban to support a veto of the GOP-led effort."
 When GOA staff called to confirm this quote, GOA was told that Dole
"supports the Second Amendment." [Editor: That's good; Bill Clinton also
"supports" the Second Amendment.] When GOA asked why Sen. Dole did not
fulfill his promise and hold a vote on repealing the gun ban, the campaign
answered that there were not enough votes to pass the bill. GOA staff then
confronted the staff with what seemed to be a bit of hypocrisy. In the Macomb
Daily last May 31, it was reported that Dole would schedule a "vote on the
balanced budget amendment . . . even though he knows it will fail." On June
7, USA Today quoted Dole as saying, "It's not whether you win or lose [on the
balanced budget amendment], but whether you've made the statement." Why not
use the same strategy, GOA asked, in regard to our Second Amendment rights
and put all the Senators on record? Dole's staff responded that, "The
balanced budget was a priority." [Editor: The Second Amendment is not?]
 Yesterday's Times article also reflected upon how Dole broke his promise to
hold a gun vote:
 Earlier this week, Mr. Dole abandoned his April 1995 pledge to the National
Rifle Association to support repeal for the ban on the sale and manufacture
of 19 specific assault-style firearms. Mr. Dole yesterday changed his
position again and vowed -- as Mr. Clinton already has -- to veto any attempt
to repeal the ban. While the above report was disturbing, the following was
even more upsetting. The Times reported that, "Mr. Dole went even further,
saying he would lobby fellow Republicans to abandon efforts to repeal the ban
on assault-style firearms."
 [This is the same problem that Republicans in Congress faced under President
George Bush. Bush lobbied Congressional Republicans to support his gun
control efforts. Contrast this to the situation in 1994. Congressional
Republicans were free to oppose the anti-gun Democrat in the White House. Not
having a Presidential leader from the same Party, Republicans rose up and
opposed the gun ban. Even though they initially lost, they made it an issue
in the elections and changed the Congress. And of course, changing the
Congress is the real answer. Gun owners must work towards a veto-proof
Congress.]
 Instant Check and gun owner registration. On another "gun control front,"
Dole took credit for the instant "registration" check earlier this week.
Calling it the "Dole Instant Check," Dole promised to impose this gun control
system upon the states as soon as possible.
 Many gun authorities have noted that the instant check -- with its potential
for illegal gun registration -- is just as dangerous as the waiting period
itself. After all, even though it's technically illegal for authorities to
record the names of gun buyers after conducting a background check, there is
always the danger that authorities will keep the names. (Hasn't "Filegate"
taught us that if there is a will to evade privacy protections, there is a
way to do it -- despite legal prohibitions?)
 What if a Craig Livingstone ends up running the instant check? Even the
government has admitted that the instant check can result in gun owner
registration as a result of the instant check. A Justice Department Task
Force stated in 1989 that, "Any system that requires a criminal history
record check prior to purchase of a firearm creates the potential for the
automated tracking of individuals who seek to purchase firearms." In truth,
registration does occur during the instant check. The question is, can one be
sure the government will truly get rid of the names after conducting the
check? The answer would seem quite doubtful if the people running the check
have the integrity of a Bill Clinton or a Craig Livingstone.
 HERE'S WHAT TO DO:
 * Call the Bob Dole campaign and express your disappointment that Dole would
back off the repeal. Encourage him to also reconsider his position on the
instant registration system, and to support the Second and Tenth Amendments
together. Contact Dole at ph) 1-800-262-3653, 202-414-6400; fax: 202-414-
6345, 414-8007.
 * Make sure you have called Western Union (1-800-651-1486) and have sent a
mailgram to urge your Congressman to cosponsor H.R. 2470. This bill repeals
the waiting period and the instant registration check!
... To receive GOA alerts via e-mail send request to:davisda@rmi.net
July 10, 1996
Below is the transcript of Presidential candidate Bob Dole's
comments at his press conference on Tuesday, July 9, 1996.
NRA Members and gun owners are encouraged to express their
views to:
        the Dole campaign:                   202-414-6400
        the Republican National Committee:   202-863-8500
and your own Congressman and Senators at 202-224-3121.
=+=+=+=+=+
(Introduced by Governor George Allen...)
BOB DOLE, Presidential Candidate:  (Applause)  Thank you...Thank
you very much...I appreciate...Thank you very much.
Well, let me say I'm very honored to be in your company today and
I appreciate very much the very warm welcome not only outdoors,
but indoors, I've received.  And I'm very honored to be here and,
Colonel, I am very happy to see you and be here with the Attorney
General of this state.  You did a great job, Attorney General
Gilmore.  And with Bill Barr, a longtime friend of mine who did
an outstanding job as US Attorney General.  And to be here with
George and Susan Allen, and it seems to me that Secretary Gilgore
also.
This is an opportunity.  I don't look upon this as a political
statement I'm about to make because it's something I've been
doing for a long, long time as the Governor pointed out.  I
didn't start this last week or last month, thinking it might make
a great statement for my Presidential race.  I started this a
long time ago, back in 1979.  And I understood at the time what a
gun or an explosive shell could do to someone.  I understood that
and it seemed to me that what we wanted to do then was to keep
guns away from the people who shouldn't have guns.  Law abiding
citizens are one thing, but others are something else.
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