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echo: askacop
to: RON TAYLOR
from: RYAN BAGUEROS
date: 1998-04-15 19:01:00
subject: Re: choices in amerikka

        ù Quoting Ron Taylor from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
RT> you think a particular law is right, YOU make the choice to abide by 
RT> or break it.  If you decide to use drugs for whatever reasons, YOU 
RT> decide to take the consequences of getting caught.
But, on the other hand, I DON'T have a choice in whether it is illegal or 
t?
RT> Maybe you forgot that no policeman has ever passed a law.  You are 
RT> correct though, the police do actively hunt drug users, as well as 
Please. A ridiculous argument. While the executive branches of government do 
not pass laws, they certainly influence the lawmakers, through FOP lobbying, 
etc. Who do you think has more influence - the filthy rich drug enforcement 
coffers, intent on perpetuating the drug war, or a grassroots pro-drug group?
RT> Pretty thin argument Ryan.  I'm not buying it.  But if I did, there 
RT> would still be one alternative... move to another city.  But then, 
RT> you've already showed us that you _choose_ to live in your present 
RT> situation.
In case you hadn't noticed, there is a severe shortage of quality, 
inexpensive 
housing in this country, especially in the city. Finding a lease-less 
apartment
is nearly impossible.
RT> You ain't black and this ain't the 50's and 60's.  Don't try to 
RT> divert the attention to something else.  You are pretty good a 
RT> playing "ring around the rosy".  Unconvincing, but good at playing 
It isn't ring around the rosy. The question is, if it is my FAULT that I 
would 
be arrested for carrying a joint, because it was my choice to carry a joint, 
by
the same token, it would be a black person's FAULT if they decided to break a 
racist law. Yes? Or no? The point I'm making is that because you break a law 
does not necessarily mean it is your FAULT for getting arrested. If the laws 
are unjust to begin with, it is the government's fault.
RT> Damn right, but then I think your hypothetical example is unrealistic 
RT> cause a 13-year-old kid with the ethics to even go out and get a job 
RT> at Kroger's has more moral fiber than someone who goes out looking 
RT> for a victim.
Yeah, well I know plenty of kids who work at Kroger's (or something like it) 
after school, and *still* commit crimes like drug dealing because Kroger's 
doesn't pay enough.
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