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echo: nthelp
to: Ellen K.
from: Rich
date: 2005-02-13 20:00:30
subject: Re: Internet access

From: "Rich" 

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   It's still unclear what you mean by "internet access".  Do you mean, =
accessible from the Internet as is suggested by your mention of a =
firewall blocking ports or the more common usage where the local machine =
can access the internet but not the reverse.  I hope you mean the latter =
in which case I don't see the problem.

Rich

  "Ellen K."  wrote in message =
news:ob70119tt0lp5b1sr95gvv2gv7gnfhtvhh{at}4ax.com...
  Unfortunately our operation isn't that sophisticated.   All the =
Windows
  servers have internet access and go to WindowsUpdate to get patched.
  So if I could wave a magic wand, I would have us receive a
  Windows-Update-On-A-CD from Microsoft whenever new patches or service
  packs come out.

  On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:45:51 -0800, "Rich"  wrote in message
  :

  >   I think Internet access is being used in distinct ways here.  =
There is no need for a direct connection to the Internet nor any = incoming
connection at all.  Whatever firewall you use on your network = should have
no relevance.
  >
  >   What is needed to use Windows Update, but not some of the other =
supported update mechanisms, is the ability to access the internet such =
as via proxy, VPN, or whatever mechanism works for you.
  >
  >Rich
  >
  >  "Ellen K."  wrote in message =
news:6vhv01dsvdep48mkooe154s5cr5d0m73cv{at}4ax.com...
  >  I have to say it actually does bother me that my SQL Server boxes =
at
  >  work have internet access in order to go to WindowsUpdate.  I would
  >  prefer that they not have internet access, even though ports 1433 =
and
  >  1434 are blocked at the firewall.

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problem.
 
Rich
 

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"Ellen K." <72322.1016{at}compuserve.com&g=">mailto:72322.1016{at}compuserve.com">72322.1016{at}compuserve.com&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message news:6vhv01dsvde=
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  I have to say it actually does bother me that my SQL Server boxes=20
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  firewall.

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