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to: KEITH KNAPP
from: DAVID HARTUNG
date: 1998-01-01 09:18:00
subject: PBS

-=> Quoting Keith Knapp to Robert Plett <=-
 KK> What you believe is none of my business, none of the ACLU's business,
 KK> and none of anybody else's business either.  Period.  But when you
 KK> try to make your religious beliefs into American policy, you are
 KK> violating everyone else's American right to not have to believe your
 KK> particular theology.
 Explain to me how the display of a Nativity scene on the lawn of city
 hall, as part of a larger display, makes Christianity public policy?
 How is allowing a Christian group to use school facilities(as they
 allow other groups), making Christianity a public policy? Both of these
 refer to actions of the ACLU, which have had the effect of limiting
 the expression of Christianity as compared to the rest of society.
 RP>I thouroughly enjoyed the reaction of that town in New Jersey to ACLU
 RP>court suits - they removed the Christmas displays and replaced them with
 RP>signs quoting the New Jersey Constitution preamble, which speaks of God
 RP>from beginning to end.  Another sign indicates the town will continue
 RP>its fight to restore religious freedom and once again proudly display
 RP>the emblems of the season on public grounds as has so long been the
 RP>tradition of this nation.
 KK> The _US_ Bill of Rights (which states what governments _cannot_ do to
 KK> individuals) states that the lawmaking body shall not make any law
 KK> favoring any establishment of religion.
 
 I know of no law passed in my lifetime which has established
 Christianity as the state faith.
 RP>Open your eyes, Keith, what the ACLU supports is anything and everything
 RP>that is conducive to suppression of the Judeo/Christian ethic in this
 RP>country, and everything conducive to anarchy and/or socialism.
 KK> I would really appreciate it if you could explain how they could
 KK> be supporting both anarchy and socialism.  Could it be that they are
 KK> fighting against the fact that when one religious sect gains state
 KK> power, that sect immediately suppresses all other sects?  Read the
 KK> early history of the Puritans and other such groups.  They came here
 KK> seeking religious freedom, but once they got here, within six months
 KK> most had outlawed the practices of any sect but their own.
 I seem to recall having read somewhere(perhaps the two Roberts know of
 this) that the way to bring about a socialist state, one must first
 destroy the existing legal system,by bringing about a state of anarchy.
 The resulting disorder would be so great, that the people would be
 willing to give up much or all of their liberty in order to restore
 law and order.
 david.hartung@mcione.com
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