From: "Geo." 

and the dollar grown in the piracy numbers? 15% 20%? What's that, inflation?

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:45c003f6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
   Irrelevant.

   False too.  From the article "US saw only a third of that growth at
3.5%"

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
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  PC sales aren't up.
  http://www.electronista.com/articles/06/12/20/pc.sales.stagnant.in.us/

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45be9711{at}w3.nls.net...
     Every time I hear all about (digital music players, DVD players, flat
  panel TVs, HDTVs, etc) the numbers do nothing but go up.

     Hmm.  Maybe they are.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message
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    Every time I hear about how much so and so is loosing due to pirating,
the
    numbers do nothing but go up. I have never heard anyone claiming that
the
    dollar losses due to piracy have been reduced. In the early 1990's they
    claimed a billion dollars a year lost to piracy, then it was 4bn then
10bn
    now we are up to $50bn per year world wide. I mean come on.. Oh and
don't
  go
    and quote any bullshit percentage numbers, I'm counting dollars here.

    And since these numbers cover all the software in the world, well then
it
    only makes sense that they also cover all the copy protection in the
world
    doesn't it?

    Anyone here can tell you about the spams hocking office, it's nothing
new.

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45be167e{at}w3.nls.net...
       One the basis of one offer you make this claim?  Also, from where did
  you
    pull the nonsense "all the copyprotection in the world"?

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message
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      I just got a spam offering me office 2007 for $70, you want to explain
  to
    me
      how all the copyprotection in the world PLUS the best spam filters
    available
      has failed to even make a dent in this?

      Geo.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd2a21$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         Piracy was an issue with the VCR.  Pirates set up banks of
recorders
  to
      make pirate copies.  It was time consuming and had real costs both in
  time
      and in physical media.  CDs and DVDs have the same but costs are much
    lower.
      Sure there is money to be made but that doesn't excuse piracy.  The
  issue
    is
      that the balance between the cost of real product and the cost or
  pirated
      copies has shifted dramatically.  Pirated copies now have a cost that
is
      effectively zero.

         If is not your place to set the price for someone else's work.  If
  you
      don't like the price don't buy it.  If you steal it you are a crook
and
      should come clean.  If you ever create something of your own, and in
  years
      of discussing this you have never hinted that you are likely ever to
do
    so,
      you can set your own price.

      Rich

        "Geo."  wrote in message
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        This is the same argument that they used against the VCR, it allows
    anyone
        to pirate stuff soooo easily... and yet it enabled the movie
  industries
    to
        make more money than they ever dreamed possible.

        The internet is no different.

        You need to understand something, people are basically honest folks
  who
      pay
        for what they want. All you need to do is figure out what they want
  and
      make
        it available at a price point that they find acceptable. The
internet
  is
    a
        wet dream for this if the copyright nuts don't fuck it up with their
    same
        old nonsense.

        Geo.

        "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd239b{at}w3.nls.net...
           Stronger protections are due to one thing, technological advances
    that
        make piracy easier with increases in connection speeds being a major
  one
      if
        not the major one.  10 years ago people didn't steal movies over the
        internet like they do today because it wasn't practical.  20 years
ago
    you
        had to distribute physical media which took significant time to
    duplicate.

           I don't see copy protection restrictions becoming any more
    restrictive.
        They seem focused on one thing, don't allow unlicenced copying.

           It's very interesting that this seems to affect your life so
much.
  I
        could see this if you are one of the folks active in pirating
software
    and
        content.  I can't think of a single example where any such
  restrictions
      have
        affected me but I'm not a pirate.

        Rich
          "Geo."  wrote in message
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          The whole thing is being motivated by the desire of the software
and
        content
          industries to have more and more restrictive options for copy
    protection
        and
          licensing use.

          Geo.

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