In article ,
mcculloch@mail.utexas.edu (Jim McCulloch) wrote:

> In article , "John M. Wildenthal"
>  wrote:
> 
> > Jim McCulloch wrote:
> > 
> > > In article , "Jerry Peacock"
> > >  wrote:
> 
> > >
> > > I figured it would sound about right to you. Inasmuch as Kleck's figures
> > > are wrong by a factor of 30, if we take the NCVS statistics as our guide,
> > > we can assign you the full NRA credulity ranking of 30.  Most of the
> > > readers of tx.guns, at least, will probably score higher than that.
> > 
> > But Jim, the NCVS wasn't designed to properly estimate defensive
firearm use.
> 
> Really? That would be news to the NCVS's statisticians. They need to know
> this. Perhaps you should write and tell them.
> 
> >The NCVS is a useful tool for several things, but
> > it wasn't designed to estimate the number of defensive firearm uses.
> 
> Again, this would be news to the NCVS. 
>  
> Not only do Kleck's figures diverge wildly from the NCVS's figures, but
> they diverge wildly from each other.  Kleck has actually done a number of
> studies of this problem, and his methodology, which Dr. Wolfgang (who I
> would guess is getting along in years) admires so much, gives him vastly
> different results each time.  
> 
> One of the more amusing improbabilities of Kleck's recent figures, is that
> the logically required body count of criminals killed or wounded by the
> defensive uses he reports exceeds the known number of persons wounded by
> guns from all causes every year.
> 
> Leaving aside the question of where the bodies of the killed have been
> hidden, the question of where wounded got treatment is an interesting one
> indeed.  Kleck, I have read, believes they got treatment secretly.  
> 
> Kleck could perhaps do another survey of imaginary things, and give us a
> hard count of emergency rooms and physicians who treat gunshot wounds
> without reporting them.  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> --Jim McCulloch

Just because a person stops a crime using his gun does not mean he fired
the gun or even aimed at his assailant

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