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Chris Lemon wrote:

> "No One"  wrote in message
> news:exzIa.3976$Ly2.745071{at}cletus.bright.net
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>>We, the fans, want our Goldberg like this
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> 
> Speak for yourself. I, for one, was tired of watching Goldberg be fed a
> steady diet of jobbers, eveny match be shorter than his ring intro, and the
> spear-jackhammer-drive through please finish land EVERY SINGLE TIME. Hogan
> wrestles the same match and he's called one-dimensional. Goldberg does it
> and he's a genius? I don't THINK so.

I was of the opinion that G wanted to become a more fully-rounded 
wrestler in his WCW days, but was pigeon-holed by the PTB.

>>But why, oh why, are the McMahons not understanding this?
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> 
> The McMahons have FORGOTTEN more about wrestling than you will EVER learn.

And they seem to have forgotten Basic Booking 101 in the last few years 
as well.

>>Stephanie runs a dictatorship over WWE Creative and resists
>>any form of change from her failing ruts. And she abuses her position
>>of authority to put and keep her beloved Triple H at the top. And
>>yes, this is a conflict of interest along with the fact that Triple H
>>sits on more booking boards that any other wrestler.
> 
> 
> Oh Gawd, yer one of those. Okay, this all makes a lot more sense now.
> 
> Someone with a little sense, tell me the rest of this NG isn't like this...
> 
> 
>>Goldberg's debut in the WWE was ruined because it was expected. They
>>advertised his return at Wrestlemania
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> 
> I was at WM. I haven't seen the broadcast yet (does anyone know a DVD street
> date?) but I know the crowd went apeshit when that music hit. I don't see
> that as ruining a surprise. Would you rather he stalk Sara Taker for a
> couple weeks first? Yeah, THAT was a winner.
> 
> 
>>Also, Goldberg belongs in the main event. However, the WWE is sticking
>>Goldberg, a main-event character, in midcard matches with midcard
>>wrestlers to "job" to midcard situations. This is a huge eyesore of
>>inconsistency in Goldberg's character.
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> 
> And yet, completely consistent with how McMahon has treated EVERY new hire
> to his company. Doesn't matter how big you were at your previous job, you
> EARN your spot in a PPV main.

Actually, I have to agree with No One here.  G is being paid BIG money 
and did get bumped up into one of the Main Events at WM.  That the 
writers flailed about for a feud after WM is pretty obvious, as is their 
terrible portrayal of G since he's been in the WWE, at least judging by 
ratings where G is concerned, buy rates, and the fans' starting to turn 
on him during matches.

FWIW, WWE had a very similar problem with their need to book the 
WWE/Alliance war with the Alliance looking so weak from the outset.

>>Imagine that--an undefeated monster stuck in boring midcard wrestling!
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> 
> Imagine. Exactly how he started in WCW.

And became one of the biggest names in the sport.  A program where G 
goes through the midcard could work, IMHO, if it's pointed out that G 
has to work his way up and is doing so with the RAW version of the WWE 
Title always being his goal.  They're not doing that.

>>And, as everybody knows, Goldberg's music has been changed for the
>>worse. Goldberg's old music was sounded like a legendary champion
>>returning in a triumphant manner to destroy the opposition.
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> 
> I'll spot you this. Why they didn't keep Goldberg's kickass original theme
> and they allow Booker T to keep his boggles me.

This is a good point for what I think No One is saying.  Why does the 
WWE feel it SO very necessary to do G THEIR WAY from the outset instead 
of booking him as he was in WCW for a short time and then bring in 
changes little by little?  Especially as "their way" hasn't seemed too 
popular?  Do they think if fans get hit over the head with it enough 
that they'll give in and enjoy it?

>>I think it is clear that politics, whether
>>from Triple H, Stephanie, or Vince, are now holding Goldberg down.
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> 
> I think it's clear that the company is still feeling out this
> brand-seperation thing, after umpteen months of four and five week story
> cycles.

I think it's been clear for the last few years that those currently 
writing for the WWE are in way over their heads and don't really know 
what they're supposed to be doing.

>>The McMahons are killing wrestling along with any hope of signing
>>other former WCW stars/names.
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> 
> Who else is out there that WWE would be remotely interested in? Please don't
> say Sting. I don't want to think you're an utter moron.

Actually, I think they are interested in Sting.  But I also think he's 
the last person who, as a "WCW name", is about it as far as their 
interest goes.

>>Vince McMahon has killed the competition, so now he
>>can become apathetic because he knows that the fans have no choice in
>>watching the WWE to get their "pro-wrestling."
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> 
> Vince learned with the XFL that there are many many other programming
> options for a fan to turn to other than his shows, even if he has the market
> cornered on a genre. You're fooling yourself if you think he didn't take
> that expensive lesson away from that experience.
> 
> 
>>Vince and Stephanie McMahon should be getting some ordinary, average
>>Joe fans as new writers for WWE Creative. After all, the fans know
>>what the fans want, right? What a radical thought! You think?
>>Apparently Vince does not--the WWE will only take writers with
>>Hollywood experience.
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> 
> You mean, for a national television product, he only wants writers with
> real-world professional television writing experience? Perish the thought!

If those writers don't understand the product, the people who view that 
product, and what they're supposed to do, then, yeah, it's not the best 
idea.

Michael


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