JS> No.  Neither of these games are out yet.  It's too soon for that.
 LT> Do you know when they will be coming out?  
 LT> (can you at least give me an educated guess?)
        Because the people at 3D Realms are so fond of saying "When It's Done 
(tm)," let me fill in.  DNF is due in early to mid '98.  Meanwhile, id is 
saying that Quake 2 will be available "before Christmas."
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