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from: Gary Britt
date: 2007-02-04 18:39:16
subject: Re: Little More Vista WTF.

From: Gary Britt 

OK I see what you are saying.  Your definition of backup is being able to
do a bare metal restore to a new or replacement machine/hard drive and
that's not possible for lots of reasons.  I agree it would be nice to have
this but anybody without a full retail version of win2k or XP hasn't had
this since Win2K came out.

Gary

Geo. wrote:
> If for example your install is keyed to a cpu serial number, a backup
> that you restore to a replacement machine with a different serial number
> will not work.
>
> If your disk is encrypted, and the encryption key is derived from a cpu
> serial number, a restore of a drive image to a replacement machine will
> not result in the ability to unencrypt the drive. etc. Same goes for any
> drm'd files, if you can't recover them then your backup has failed.
>
> Backup is not software and it is not the act of making an image of a
> drive, it is a procedure that includes restore. If the restore fails,
> then the backup has failed.
>
> This is why I keep saying that copy protection and backup are
> incompatible, they work to defeat each other.
>
> Geo.
>
> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
> news:45c57d48$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> We're talking past each other.  All my statements have been about
>> Acronis TrueImage backup and I assumed your statements and questions
>> that followed were about or related to products like Acronis.  So how
>> does, if at all, your statement about copy protected stuff there is no
>> such thing as a reliable backup.  My Acronis backups are reliable
>> drive images.  Now if I had any DRM infected files maybe they couldn't
>> be restored to new hardware, but everything else that I use could.  Of
>> course I don't use Vista.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> Geo. wrote:
>>> Read the restore procedure for windows backup.
>>>
>>> Geo.
>>>
>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>> news:45c52da9{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> ??   Everything that I backup is copyrighted?  An image restore is
>>>> an image restore no?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> Geo. wrote:
>>>>> If the product you are backing up is copy protected, there is no
>>>>> such thing as a reliable backup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:45c4f19c{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> You have to use products like Acronis TrueImage if
you want a
>>>>>> reliable backup.  I've never used an MS Backup
Utility since Dos 6.2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>

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