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echo: apogee
to: JONATHAN FINGAS
from: PATRICK MCCULLOUGH
date: 1997-09-15 02:09:00
subject: Game mags

 Jonathan Fingas wrote in a message to Lee Jackson:
 LJ> I read music/sound oriented stuff - Mix, Electronic Musician, EQ - not 
o
 LJ> much the gaming mags.
JF>   You ought to check gaming magazines out.  Not to rip off ideas in
JF> development, of course (though Messiah ought to be heavily copied
JF> for Prey!), but to find out what people think from a more critical
JF> perspective.
 Hmmn.... I dunno, but I think Apogee has done darn well so far
 when it comes to guessing what the public wants, before the public
 even knows it wants it.
 The game mags ought to bug the offices if they want the real scoop.
 Not that I'm suggesting they DO that, of course!  ;)
 LJ> Who says there can't be serious nudity?
JF>   I'm not saying there can't, it's just that it isn't usually the
JF> earmark of a top-notch product.  And don't forget that you'll
 ??? How does nudity make it less-than top notch?  There's no
 automatic stamp that anything with nudity in it=bad, and that's
 good or we'd all have our bathroom mirrors censored for us.
 If you really want to get off topic and into deep thought, remember
 that nudity and related things are part of being human, while
 running around blasting aliens with pipe bombs and RPGs is not.
 I dunno how or why everyone always lumps nudity in with violence as
 if they're both inherently evil or something.  Makes no sense at all.
 Anyway, DNF will be in Vegas.  How could it *not* have nudity and
 still portray the city correctly?  
JF> probably still have some "littluns" (curse that Lord of the Flies!)
JF> playing the game, and unlike something like Shadow Warrior, you
JF> can't just get rid of a character like that. 
 Any 'littlun' playing these games unsupervised has only their parents
 to blame, and don't forget the violence and adult content *can* be
 disabled and password-protected in DN3D; so far, I've seen nothing in
 the SW demo that could be called 'adult' or at least no nudity anyway.
 If I were a parent, the only thing that would bother me would be Lo
 Wang's vocabulary, and that can be turned off too.  :)
 And it's not as though the kids don't hear worse at school anyway.
 Patrick
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