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to: Geo.
from: mike
date: 2007-01-29 17:51:24
subject: Re: Piracy

From: mike 


Given that I saw Office 2007 advertised in the local paper for over $500
for the UPDATE version, I think that person offering it for $70 could get
more....

 /m


On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:12:29 -0500, "Geo."  wrote:

>I just got a spam offering me office 2007 for $70, you want to explain to me
>how all the copyprotection in the world PLUS the best spam filters available
>has failed to even make a dent in this?
>
>Geo.
>
>"Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd2a21$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>   Piracy was an issue with the VCR.  Pirates set up banks of recorders to
>make pirate copies.  It was time consuming and had real costs both in time
>and in physical media.  CDs and DVDs have the same but costs are much lower.
>Sure there is money to be made but that doesn't excuse piracy.  The issue is
>that the balance between the cost of real product and the cost or pirated
>copies has shifted dramatically.  Pirated copies now have a cost that is
>effectively zero.
>
>   If is not your place to set the price for someone else's work.  If you
>don't like the price don't buy it.  If you steal it you are a crook and
>should come clean.  If you ever create something of your own, and in years
>of discussing this you have never hinted that you are likely ever to do so,
>you can set your own price.
>
>Rich
>
>  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bd2790$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>  This is the same argument that they used against the VCR, it allows anyone
>  to pirate stuff soooo easily... and yet it enabled the movie industries to
>  make more money than they ever dreamed possible.
>
>  The internet is no different.
>
>  You need to understand something, people are basically honest folks who
>pay
>  for what they want. All you need to do is figure out what they want and
>make
>  it available at a price point that they find acceptable. The internet is a
>  wet dream for this if the copyright nuts don't fuck it up with their same
>  old nonsense.
>
>  Geo.
>
>  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd239b{at}w3.nls.net...
>     Stronger protections are due to one thing, technological advances that
>  make piracy easier with increases in connection speeds being a major one
>if
>  not the major one.  10 years ago people didn't steal movies over the
>  internet like they do today because it wasn't practical.  20 years ago you
>  had to distribute physical media which took significant time to duplicate.
>
>     I don't see copy protection restrictions becoming any more restrictive.
>  They seem focused on one thing, don't allow unlicenced copying.
>
>     It's very interesting that this seems to affect your life so much.  I
>  could see this if you are one of the folks active in pirating software and
>  content.  I can't think of a single example where any such restrictions
>have
>  affected me but I'm not a pirate.
>
>  Rich
>    "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bced48$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>
>    The whole thing is being motivated by the desire of the software and
>  content
>    industries to have more and more restrictive options for copy protection
>  and
>    licensing use.
>
>    Geo.

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