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echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Geo.
date: 2007-01-30 20:35:18
subject: Re: Piracy

From: "Geo." 

PC sales aren't up.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/06/12/20/pc.sales.stagnant.in.us/

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:45be9711{at}w3.nls.net...
   Every time I hear all about (digital music players, DVD players, flat
panel TVs, HDTVs, etc) the numbers do nothing but go up.

   Hmm.  Maybe they are.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45be932f{at}w3.nls.net...
  Every time I hear about how much so and so is loosing due to pirating, the
  numbers do nothing but go up. I have never heard anyone claiming that the
  dollar losses due to piracy have been reduced. In the early 1990's they
  claimed a billion dollars a year lost to piracy, then it was 4bn then 10bn
  now we are up to $50bn per year world wide. I mean come on.. Oh and don't
go
  and quote any bullshit percentage numbers, I'm counting dollars here.

  And since these numbers cover all the software in the world, well then it
  only makes sense that they also cover all the copy protection in the world
  doesn't it?

  Anyone here can tell you about the spams hocking office, it's nothing new.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45be167e{at}w3.nls.net...
     One the basis of one offer you make this claim?  Also, from where did
you
  pull the nonsense "all the copyprotection in the world"?

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bdd6ed$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I just got a spam offering me office 2007 for $70, you want to explain
to
  me
    how all the copyprotection in the world PLUS the best spam filters
  available
    has failed to even make a dent in this?

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd2a21$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Piracy was an issue with the VCR.  Pirates set up banks of recorders
to
    make pirate copies.  It was time consuming and had real costs both in
time
    and in physical media.  CDs and DVDs have the same but costs are much
  lower.
    Sure there is money to be made but that doesn't excuse piracy.  The
issue
  is
    that the balance between the cost of real product and the cost or
pirated
    copies has shifted dramatically.  Pirated copies now have a cost that is
    effectively zero.

       If is not your place to set the price for someone else's work.  If
you
    don't like the price don't buy it.  If you steal it you are a crook and
    should come clean.  If you ever create something of your own, and in
years
    of discussing this you have never hinted that you are likely ever to do
  so,
    you can set your own price.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bd2790$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      This is the same argument that they used against the VCR, it allows
  anyone
      to pirate stuff soooo easily... and yet it enabled the movie
industries
  to
      make more money than they ever dreamed possible.

      The internet is no different.

      You need to understand something, people are basically honest folks
who
    pay
      for what they want. All you need to do is figure out what they want
and
    make
      it available at a price point that they find acceptable. The internet
is
  a
      wet dream for this if the copyright nuts don't fuck it up with their
  same
      old nonsense.

      Geo.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd239b{at}w3.nls.net...
         Stronger protections are due to one thing, technological advances
  that
      make piracy easier with increases in connection speeds being a major
one
    if
      not the major one.  10 years ago people didn't steal movies over the
      internet like they do today because it wasn't practical.  20 years ago
  you
      had to distribute physical media which took significant time to
  duplicate.

         I don't see copy protection restrictions becoming any more
  restrictive.
      They seem focused on one thing, don't allow unlicenced copying.

         It's very interesting that this seems to affect your life so much.
I
      could see this if you are one of the folks active in pirating software
  and
      content.  I can't think of a single example where any such
restrictions
    have
      affected me but I'm not a pirate.

      Rich
        "Geo."  wrote in message
  news:45bced48$1{at}w3.nls.net...


        The whole thing is being motivated by the desire of the software and
      content
        industries to have more and more restrictive options for copy
  protection
      and
        licensing use.

        Geo.

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