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echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Geo.
date: 2007-01-29 19:32:58
subject: Re: Piracy

From: "Geo." 

Every time I hear about how much so and so is loosing due to pirating, the
numbers do nothing but go up. I have never heard anyone claiming that the
dollar losses due to piracy have been reduced. In the early 1990's they
claimed a billion dollars a year lost to piracy, then it was 4bn then 10bn
now we are up to $50bn per year world wide. I mean come on.. Oh and don't
go and quote any bullshit percentage numbers, I'm counting dollars here.

And since these numbers cover all the software in the world, well then it
only makes sense that they also cover all the copy protection in the world
doesn't it?

Anyone here can tell you about the spams hocking office, it's nothing new.

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:45be167e{at}w3.nls.net...
   One the basis of one offer you make this claim?  Also, from where did you
pull the nonsense "all the copyprotection in the world"?

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bdd6ed$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  I just got a spam offering me office 2007 for $70, you want to explain to
me
  how all the copyprotection in the world PLUS the best spam filters
available
  has failed to even make a dent in this?

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd2a21$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Piracy was an issue with the VCR.  Pirates set up banks of recorders to
  make pirate copies.  It was time consuming and had real costs both in time
  and in physical media.  CDs and DVDs have the same but costs are much
lower.
  Sure there is money to be made but that doesn't excuse piracy.  The issue
is
  that the balance between the cost of real product and the cost or pirated
  copies has shifted dramatically.  Pirated copies now have a cost that is
  effectively zero.

     If is not your place to set the price for someone else's work.  If you
  don't like the price don't buy it.  If you steal it you are a crook and
  should come clean.  If you ever create something of your own, and in years
  of discussing this you have never hinted that you are likely ever to do
so,
  you can set your own price.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bd2790$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    This is the same argument that they used against the VCR, it allows
anyone
    to pirate stuff soooo easily... and yet it enabled the movie industries
to
    make more money than they ever dreamed possible.

    The internet is no different.

    You need to understand something, people are basically honest folks who
  pay
    for what they want. All you need to do is figure out what they want and
  make
    it available at a price point that they find acceptable. The internet is
a
    wet dream for this if the copyright nuts don't fuck it up with their
same
    old nonsense.

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd239b{at}w3.nls.net...
       Stronger protections are due to one thing, technological advances
that
    make piracy easier with increases in connection speeds being a major one
  if
    not the major one.  10 years ago people didn't steal movies over the
    internet like they do today because it wasn't practical.  20 years ago
you
    had to distribute physical media which took significant time to
duplicate.

       I don't see copy protection restrictions becoming any more
restrictive.
    They seem focused on one thing, don't allow unlicenced copying.

       It's very interesting that this seems to affect your life so much.  I
    could see this if you are one of the folks active in pirating software
and
    content.  I can't think of a single example where any such restrictions
  have
    affected me but I'm not a pirate.

    Rich
      "Geo."  wrote in message
news:45bced48$1{at}w3.nls.net...


      The whole thing is being motivated by the desire of the software and
    content
      industries to have more and more restrictive options for copy
protection
    and
      licensing use.

      Geo.

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