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to: Geo.
from: Rich
date: 2007-01-27 15:45:42
subject: Re: System migration

From: "Rich" 

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   Microsoft applications that use activation to limit piracy can be =
moved between systems.  I'm not aware of any Microsoft application that =
is tied to a specific computer.

   Maybe you are thinking of other ISVs.  I suspect that some expensive =
vertical applications (e.g. CAD) might still use dongles or equivalent.  =
I have a cousin with some macintosh computers used for point of sale = that
were hit by this.  He wanted to replace his old macs with new ones = and
only after the new ones arrived did he find the apps didn't move = easily. 
It didn't help that apple switched from PPC to x86 as well as = made major
incompatible changes in the OS.  The existing apps he had = wouldn't run on
the new computer in any way.  He had to update the app = three times to
multiple intermediate versions to get the data moved.  I = don't remember
what he had to get them approved for the new computer.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45bbb11b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  You know, tying apps to the hardware could be a huge negative for MS. =
I mean=20
  suddenly it's not an issue of being able to keep your old software so =
you=20
  aren't anchored to a platform or OS anymore. Kinda makes investment in =

  applications a non-factor when considering a hardware upgrade.

  Rich, someone needs to ask the folks in charge of Microsoft, "is this =
really=20
  where you want to go today?".. because this is a case where perhaps MS =
can=20
  pull it off for the OS (tying it to the hardware) but allowing =
applications=20
  to do this is going to really hurt when it comes to the fickle users =
looking=20
  at alternatives like Mac or Linux. Suddenly those users have to buy =
new=20
  application software no matter what their upgrade choices are..

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45ba5662$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     I would recommend reinstalling any applications and migrating your =
data,

     If you have applications that are coupled to the old hardware the =
OS is=20
  not a factor.

  Rich

    "Richard B."  wrote in message=20
  news:prbkr2l32mltbvmuu55d5i83lfh2h5gqqi{at}4ax.com...
    You have your current PC.  You decide to buy a brand new one, one =
that
    comes with XP preinstalled.

    How do *you* migrate all of your applications, some of which had to =
be
    activated on that old hardware, to the new hardware with minimal =
pain?
    Does this really require a corp key for the OS so you can image/move
    everything?

    - Richard=20

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   Microsoft
applications =
that use=20
activation to limit piracy can be moved between systems.  I'm not
= aware of=20
any Microsoft application that is tied to a specific =
computer.
 
   Maybe you
are thinking of =
other=20
ISVs.  I suspect that some expensive vertical =
applications (e.g. CAD)=20
might still use dongles or equivalent.  I have a cousin with some
= macintosh=20
computers used for point of sale that were hit by this.  He wanted = to=20
replace his old macs with new ones and only after the new ones arrived = did he=20
find the apps didn't move easily.  It didn't help that apple =
switched from=20
PPC to x86 as well as made major incompatible changes in the OS.  = The=20
existing apps he had wouldn't run on the new computer in any way. 
= He had=20
to update the app three times to multiple intermediate versions to get = the data=20
moved.  I don't remember what he had to get them approved for the = new=20
computer.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45bbb11b$1{at}w3.nls.net...You=20
  know, tying apps to the hardware could be a huge negative for MS. I =
mean=20
  suddenly it's not an issue of being able to keep your old software =
so you=20
  aren't anchored to a platform or OS anymore. Kinda makes =
investment in=20
  applications a non-factor when considering a hardware=20
  upgrade.Rich, someone needs to ask the folks in charge of =
Microsoft,=20
  "is this really where you want to go today?"..
because this is a =
case=20
  where perhaps MS can pull it off for the OS (tying it to the =
hardware) but=20
  allowing applications to do this is going to really hurt when it =
comes to=20
  the fickle users looking at alternatives like Mac or Linux. =
Suddenly those=20
  users have to buy new application software no matter what their =
upgrade=20
  choices are..Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:45ba5662$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  I would recommend reinstalling any applications and migrating your=20
  data,   If you have applications
that are coupled to =
the old=20
  hardware the OS is not a
factor.Rich  =
"Richard B."=20
  <TDNBW{at}barktopus.com>">mailto:TDNBW{at}barktopus.com">TDNBW{at}barktopus.com>
=
wrote in=20
  message news:prbkr2l32ml=
tbvmuu55d5i83lfh2h5gqqi{at}4ax.com... =20
  You have your current PC.  You decide to buy a brand new one, one =

  that  comes with XP
preinstalled.  How do *you* =
migrate=20
  all of your applications, some of which had to be  activated =
on that=20
  old hardware, to the new hardware with minimal pain?  Does =
this=20
  really require a corp key for the OS so you can image/move =20
  everything?  - Richard


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