From: "Rich" 

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   Piracy was an issue with the VCR.  Pirates set up banks of recorders =
to make pirate copies.  It was time consuming and had real costs both in =
time and in physical media.  CDs and DVDs have the same but costs are =
much lower.  Sure there is money to be made but that doesn't excuse =
piracy.  The issue is that the balance between the cost of real product =
and the cost or pirated copies has shifted dramatically.  Pirated copies =
now have a cost that is effectively zero.

   If is not your place to set the price for someone else's work.  If =
you don't like the price don't buy it.  If you steal it you are a crook =
and should come clean.  If you ever create something of your own, and in =
years of discussing this you have never hinted that you are likely ever =
to do so, you can set your own price.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45bd2790$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  This is the same argument that they used against the VCR, it allows =
anyone=20
  to pirate stuff soooo easily... and yet it enabled the movie =
industries to=20
  make more money than they ever dreamed possible.

  The internet is no different.

  You need to understand something, people are basically honest folks =
who pay=20
  for what they want. All you need to do is figure out what they want =
and make=20
  it available at a price point that they find acceptable. The internet =
is a=20
  wet dream for this if the copyright nuts don't fuck it up with their =
same=20
  old nonsense.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:45bd239b{at}w3.nls.net...
     Stronger protections are due to one thing, technological advances =
that=20
  make piracy easier with increases in connection speeds being a major =
one if=20
  not the major one.  10 years ago people didn't steal movies over the=20
  internet like they do today because it wasn't practical.  20 years ago =
you=20
  had to distribute physical media which took significant time to =
duplicate.

     I don't see copy protection restrictions becoming any more =
restrictive.=20
  They seem focused on one thing, don't allow unlicenced copying.

     It's very interesting that this seems to affect your life so much.  =
I=20
  could see this if you are one of the folks active in pirating software =
and=20
  content.  I can't think of a single example where any such =
restrictions have=20
  affected me but I'm not a pirate.

  Rich
    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45bced48$1{at}w3.nls.net...


    The whole thing is being motivated by the desire of the software and =

  content
    industries to have more and more restrictive options for copy =
protection=20
  and
    licensing use.

    Geo.

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   Piracy
was an issue with =
the=20
VCR.  Pirates set up banks of recorders to make pirate =
copies.  It was=20
time consuming and had real costs both in time and in physical =
media.  CDs=20
and DVDs have the same but costs are much lower.  Sure there is =
money to be=20
made but that doesn't excuse piracy.  The issue is that the
balance = between=20
the cost of real product and the cost or pirated copies has shifted=20
dramatically.  Pirated copies now have a cost that is
effectively=20 zero.
 
   If is not
your place to =
set the price=20
for someone else's work.  If you don't like the price don't buy =
it. =20
If you steal it you are a crook and should come clean.  If you
ever = create=20
something of your own, and in years of discussing this you have never = hinted=20
that you are likely ever to do so, you can set your own =
price.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45bd2790$1{at}w3.nls.net...This=20
  is the same argument that they used against the VCR, it allows anyone =
to=20
  pirate stuff soooo easily... and yet it enabled the movie industries =
to=20
  make more money than they ever dreamed possible.The =
internet is no=20
  different.You need to understand something, people are =
basically=20
  honest folks who pay for what they want. All you need to do is =
figure out=20
  what they want and make it available at a price point that they =
find=20
  acceptable. The internet is a wet dream for this if the copyright =
nuts=20
  don't fuck it up with their same old =
nonsense.Geo."Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:45bd239b{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  Stronger protections are due to one thing, technological advances that =

  make piracy easier with increases in connection speeds being a =
major one=20
  if not the major one.  10 years ago people didn't steal =
movies over=20
  the internet like they do today because it wasn't practical.  =
20=20
  years ago you had to distribute physical media which took =
significant time=20
  to duplicate.   I don't see copy protection =
restrictions=20
  becoming any more restrictive. They seem focused on one thing, =
don't allow=20
  unlicenced copying.   It's very
interesting that =
this seems=20
  to affect your life so much.  I could see this if you are one =
of the=20
  folks active in pirating software and content.  I can't think =
of a=20
  single example where any such restrictions have affected me but =
I'm not a=20
  pirate.Rich  "Geo."
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:45bced48$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  The whole thing is being motivated by the desire of the software and=20
  content  industries to have more and more
restrictive =
options for=20
  copy protection and  licensing
use. =20
Geo.

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