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from: TERRY MAY
date: 1998-03-04 20:54:00
subject: What`s wrong with this picture?

 * Originally from Area 'ALT.SPORTS.BASEBALL.ATLANTA-BRAVES'
 * Originally from burrell@wnc.com on 1:209/745.69, 04 Mar 98  20:54:50
 * Originally to All on 1:209/745
 * Forwarded by Terry May on 1:209/745, 05 Mar 98  14:47:36
FROM: burrell@wnc.com (C. R. Burrell)
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This is the pitching portion of the boxscore from today's Braves game.  What
is wrong with this picture?
                                  IP   H   R  ER  BB  SO  HR
BOSTON
 SABERHAGEN                        2   3   2   1   2   2   0
 AVERY                             2   2   0   0   1   2   0
 GORDON                            2   2   0   0   0   1   0
 J CORSI                           1   0   0   0   0   0   0
 SHAW (L)                      1 2-3   2   2   1   1   1   0
ATLANTA
 MILLWOOD                          3   2   0   0   1   3   0
 WOHLERS                           1   1   0   0   0   0   0
 BYRD                              2   0   0   0   1   1   0
 MOSS                              2   1   0   0   0   0   0
 LIGTENBERG (W)                    1   2   3   3   1   0   1
Sure, its a trick question.
To me, the most glaring problem with this question is that Lightenberg got
the win.  Look at the Braves' pitchers stats for a second.  Millwood was
good to excellent--3 baserunners but 3 Ks, no runs.  Wohlers, Byrd and Moss
were outstanding--5 innings, 3 baserunners, no runs.  Then Lightenberg comes
in to pitch the top of the 9th, Braves leading, 2-0.  He gets three outs,
with 3 baserunners, giving up 3 runs.  Clearly he had the worst day pitching
for the Braves, by far.  But who gets the win?  Why, Ligtenberg, of course,
because the Braves picked up 2 in the bottom of the 9th.
Its scoring rules like this that ought to make you black out the win-loss
portion of the pitcher's records when trying to figure out how well he
pitched.
There oughta be a law.....
Russ Burrell
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