Alex
    Tut tut.  Sarcasm only belittles the person who speaks it.  There is
room for intelligent dialogue with resorting to such tactics.  To mock a
person with different beliefs speaks of an immature philosphy at best.

    Now, the remonstration aside, I will respond to your comments.  As a
sideline, I am certified to teach people how to ride motorcycles.  One thing
we teach our students is "Risk Management".  In teaching risk
management, we
tell them that everything we do has risk.  We teach that we all need to
balance the risk with our desire to participate.  When you ride a
motorcycle, you take a risk. You balance your desired riding style with the
level of risk that you are willing to take responsibility for.

    Now, let's look at the teflon issue.  I fully acknowledge that there is
conflicting data.  I am not an expert on these types of chemicals.  I have
been, however, a firefighter in the past.  Firefighters are taught that the
products of combustion (i.e. smoke) are not predictable.  If you have a
number of different compounds burning, there is no way to predict what the
combustion will produce.  There is a synergistic effect between the
chemicals present and the particular temperature, which can produce many
different "brews".  The difference of a few degrees can change the
composition of the products.  The upshot is that smoke can be very deadly.
In fact, in a fire, far more people are killed by the smoke than by the
flames.

    Finally, I want to combine the above two paragraphs - risk management
and products of combustion.  For me, I have to look at different risk
potentials for a given situation.  With cooking there is a risk of
overheating and burning food.  This can be countered by watching things
closely.  Watching things closely can be countered by an unexpected or
distracting event which causes one to completely forget about the cooking
food.  With the overheating of a cooking utensil, there are the risks of the
products of combustion, with no way to predict what they will be or in what
concentrations.  I choose to manage some of those risks by removing factors
that I can control.  Have I removed all risk?  No, I have not.  I have
simply applied risk management to the situation to a point where I feel it
is balanced with the desired outcome.  Obviously, you believe differently
than others in this situation and I respect your beliefs.  You have simply
chosen a different level of risk than I have.

With respect

Andrew.

PS.  My comment about "Not wanting to be confused with the facts" was not
mentioned in any particular context.  This was to deliberate in order to
illustrate that it applies equally to BOTH sides of the issue.


"Alex Clayton"  wrote in message
news:azZCd.1524$v76.403{at}newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "Andrew Neilson"  wrote in message
> news:crh8p7$4gd$1{at}murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
> > Personally, I happen to love my Conures like they were my own children.
> > If
> > there is a risk, then why take it?
> >
> >
> >    The bottom line is that no matter how much data you provide, some
> > people
> > will refuse to listen.  They think that they are correct and do not want
> > to
> > be confused with the facts.
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
>
> LOL, you're more on the mark than you probably realize Andrew. They
"hype"
> can't be proved, yet you believe it and are not about to be swayed by
> "facts", you have your mind made up.
>   If you really believe in not taking risks like you claim, then you have
> your birds in a separate building, right? After all you would certainly
> NEVER have them in the same house you cook in right? Also you NEVER take
> them in a car right?
> LOL, don't get confused with all those facts now, maybe you should get the
> design for mikes aluminum hat, after all he "may" be right you know,
better
> make one for your birds too, why take chances?
> -- 
> If at first you don't succeed blame someone else and seek counseling.
>
>
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