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echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Gregg N
date: 2005-02-21 17:40:16
subject: Re: spyware techniques

From: Gregg N 

Rich wrote:
>    This isn't new.  How long has malware disabled firewalls, antivirus,
> and the like?  All these keep malware out.  They don't protect you once
> you let it in particularly if you are running as root or administrator.
> This guy claims that he believes he didn't remove it until after it was
> already installed and running.  Do you use any that claim that they do?

At one time I removed myself from the XP Administrators group to see if I
could use my computer with reduced privileges. Of course, there were a
couple of badly-behaved programs (like Quicken) that wanted to store their
data files in their program directory, or an .ini file in the windows
directory. Nevertheless, I went ahead and granted myself explicit rights to
write to the directories or files these programs needed so that I could
continue to run without administrator privileges.

However, I found that I would no longer receive Windows Automatic Update
notifications when I was not an administrator. Is there a way to allow
myself to get these notifications when I am running without Administrative
privileges? Ideally, it would download and notify me about updates, and
then require that I log in as administrator to install  the updates.

Gregg

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