Hello Bill,

On Sunday June 17 2018 09:14, you wrote to me:

 MvV>> At the time the election was held, there was no agreed upon
 MvV>> procedure to adopt a new policy. The procedure that was followed
 MvV>> was documented in P4, but that document was not in force until
 MvV>> after it was adopted. Z2 never agreed to follow that procedure.

 BM> Yet there were members of Z2 who did vote

So you say. But where is the list of voters to confirm it?

 BM> as per previous conversations so basically that voids your theory.
 BM> Even if one member voted, Z2 was included in the vote, rogue or not.

So you say, but that is just your opinion. I say one swallow does not summer
make.

 MvV>> So why did Z2 have to abide by the results if they never agreed
 MvV>> to hold an election in the first place?

And your answer to that is?

 BM>> being Fidonet is a "family" under democratic rule, z2 would have
 BM>> to abide by the resulting vote whether it be yay or nay.

 MvV>> Duh.... Z2 doesnt do it that way.

 BM> I see. That only reinforces my previous thoughts about how Z1 does
 BM> their elections and all we heard was 'foul',

Not from me. All I said is that we do not know about it because the election is
performed in secrecy. Or words to that effect.

 BM> way. Can't have it both ways.

Z1 was the first to say "Duh...". I'd say YOU can't have it both ways.


Cheers, Michiel

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